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Wtf?Thors commited incest AND is inbred

Yep,you heard right,I was just reading some old Thor,and it turns out that in a past life where Thor was Sigmund,he had his family taken away,and he and Odin(disguised as a mortal dad) went around killing the viking clan that took them,long story short,dad left,Thor was beaten,went to a house and found his long lost sister wed to a cruel abusive husband,and thus they fled(fair enough).

I first suspected something was up when his siter once called him her "Beloved",but dismissed it for then.however,when Thor dies in combat,it turns out his siter is pregnant with HIS child?

It also turns out,that this baby is a reincarnation of Thor yet again,making Thor his own

1.Brother
2.Father
3.son

and his siter his

1.Wife
2.Mother
3.sister


....am i the only one who finds that a tad wack?


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Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yep,you heard right,I was just reading some old Thor,and it turns out that in a past life where Thor was Sigmund,he had his family taken away,and he and Odin(disguised as a mortal dad) went around killing the viking clan that took them,long story short,dad left,Thor was beaten,went to a house and found his long lost sister wed to a cruel abusive husband,and thus they fled(fair enough).

I first suspected something was up when his siter once called him her "Beloved",but dismissed it for then.however,when Thor dies in combat,it turns out his siter is pregnant with HIS child?

It also turns out,that this baby is a reincarnation of Thor yet again,making Thor his own

1.Brother
2.Father
3.son

and his siter his

1.Wife
2.Mother
3.sister


....am i the only one who finds that a tad wack?



I have a feeling they got that idea from Vagners crappy operas based on the Volksung sagas. Yeah it is wack.

Gods are always commiting incest, its just one of those things that they do in mythology, but they way in which they have done it here sucks.


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I was onna make a joke about how him moving to the south in Oklahoma now seemed appropriatte,but my geogrphy sucks and i don't know if Oklahoma is actually in the south.


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I was onna make a joke about how him moving to the south in Oklahoma now seemed appropriatte,but my geogrphy sucks and i don't know if Oklahoma is actually in the south.
Not really especially the redneck South you're trying to describe. It would have worked though if it was Arkansas or West Virgina stick out tongue


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A lot of past cultures and mythologies didn't have the stigma surrounding incest that we do today. In some courtly traditions, it was considered more ideal, so as to keep the bloodline "pure". So yeah, you'll encounter it all over the place if you search for it in older traditions.


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Yes well, that was all standard fare a couple thousand years ago. Besides, I don't think Godly fluids carry diseases from such coupling. evil face They have all evolved a bit from that behaviour. I mean, Thor in his younger days used to deal with any problem by killing it. He's learned to be more patient and give people a chance - for a couple of minutes anyway. big grin


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A lot of past cultures and mythologies didn't have the stigma surrounding incest that we do today. In some courtly traditions, it was considered more ideal, so as to keep the bloodline "pure". So yeah, you'll encounter it all over the place if you search for it in older traditions.


Ok but I dont think it was common in Norse culture. erm


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Yes well, that was all standard fare a couple thousand years ago. Besides, I don't think Godly fluids carry diseases from such coupling. evil face They have all evolved a bit from that behaviour. I mean, Thor in his younger days used to deal with any problem by killing it. He's learned to be more patient and give people a chance - for a couple of minutes anyway. big grin


...Ok I hope your talking about the Marvel Thor, and not the one from Norse mythology miffed:


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Its based on a story from the Volsunga saga in Norse mythology which may or may not have taken insperation from Beowulf which is an older Saxon poem.

Sigmund was never Thor in that though, although he did encounter and later do battle with Odin in mortal disguise and yes he did have a child by his sister but she came to him in disguise at the time.

Their son was called Sinfjötli and actually died before Sigmund did and Odin himself ferried him to Valhalla.

So yes there were cases of incest in Norse Mythology which is a part of Norse culture.

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Its based on a story from the Volsunga saga in Norse mythology which may or may not have taken insperation from Beowulf which is an older Saxon poem.

Sigmund was never Thor in that though, although he did encounter and later do battle with Odin in mortal disguise and yes he did have a child by his sister but she came to him in disguise at the time.

Their son was called Sinfjötli and actually died before Sigmund did and Odin himself ferried him to Valhalla.

So yes there were cases of incest in Norse Mythology which is a part of Norse culture.


Actually you are right. When I said I dont think it was common in Norse culture I meant by actual Norse people.


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Also in hindsight as far as I know. In Norse lore when a person was born it was believed to be a reincarnation of a person. So its actually not that far removed from Norse Lore.

I just dont like the idea of Thor being at the mercy of Odin. Thor doesnt have to take orders from Odin in Norse Lore, niether do any gods for that matter.


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Ok but I dont think it was common in Norse culture. erm

Helllooo... Ymir's feet got together and birthed a six headed monster. If that's not foot on foot incest I don't know what is.

Also, his armpits gave birth to a giant son and a giantess daughter.

Norse mythology is F'd up.


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Helllooo... Ymir's feet got together and birthed a six headed monster. If that's not foot on foot incest I don't know what is.

Also, his armpits gave birth to a giant son and a giantess daughter.

Norse mythology is F'd up.


Er you know that incest is common in probably all mythology. You are joking right?


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Er you that incest is common in probably all mythology. You are joking right?

No, that's his actual history. He also fed from the four rivers of milk from a giant magic cow that was formed from frost drippings.


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No, that's his actual history. He also fed from the four rivers of milk from a giant magic cow that was formed from frost drippings.


Bro their supposed to be symbolic. Like dreams. You see wierd stuff in dreams but your dreams actually have meaning if you analyse the symbols in your dreams.


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Bro their supposed to be symbolic. Like dreams. You see wierd stuff in dreams but your dreams actually have meaning if you analyse the symbols in your dreams.

Are you sure people of ancient times weren't just stupid and gullible? Because some of them believed the sun was pulled across the sky by goats.


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Are you sure people of ancient times weren't just stupid and gullible? Because some of them believed the sun was pulled across the sky by goats.


Whoa, Swank..

, ix-nay on the oopid-stay.. IIRC Alfheim believes in all of this Nordic Pagan shizat (for loss of a better phrase).

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These guys all get Norrøn mythology wrong, they don't know anything really.

Also, just because it happened in the comics doesn't necessarily mean it's directly linked to Norrøn mythology. The way Thor got his powers are all different i.e.


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I'm pretty sure Pagan and Norse religion are two completely different things.

From my understanding Pagans believe in the earth itself as their deity. Mother earth, or the triple goddess ideal (Maiden, Mother, Crone ect ).

Norse have a pantheon.

Personally the perfect religion was created by the Germans.


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I'm pretty sure Pagan and Norse religion are two completely different things.

From my understanding Pagans believe in the earth itself as their deity. Mother earth, or the triple goddess ideal (Maiden, Mother, Crone ect ).

Norse have a pantheon.

Personally the perfect religion was created by the Germans.


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