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Avengers pretty much ended for me when Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America went their separate ways. And by that I mean they all died for a little while.
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Well at least this gave us some interesting titles. Dark Avengers and Mighty Avengers were good runs. It's nice to see some new directions by Marvel for a while. I just wish Dark Avengers had a longer run. Though, I do suspect the Dark Avengers aren't going away any time soon.
They'll just be replaced by new titles. For example [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Avengers: Initiative will be replaced by Avengers Academy. Dont click link if u dont want to be spoiled.
As for the other titles, after Siege I really dont see a Dark Avengers title sticking around. As for NA and MA, they probably continue the regular Avengers title. Maybe with a #1 issue or continue the old numbering. Hopefully they have 2 teams. One for global issues and another for street level issues.
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"A lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths." Deep Throat.
Thor has always had tension with Stark and Cap; he's never liked taking orders from mortals.
Add to the fact that Stark BETRAYED him. He stole his essense to clone him so that the clone could fight their mutual friends. That clone then brutally killed one of them.
This isn't something I, as a reader, can accept Thor ever forgiving.
If you're gonna ride my ass on this forum like a parasite, then at least be correct.
Ride you ass like a parasite like a parasite. Unusual metaphor ???
Any way, weird extreme metaphors aside,
Im pretty sure previous to Civil War Thor and Tony wre close friends. Hence including him in the intial stages of the last Norse Ragnarok.
Also the current developments in Invincible Iron man, provide Sound COMIC BOOK reasoning (notice i don't imply real life reasoning) that Tony will redeem himself, and Thor will forgive him.
The claim that Thor will forgive him is further supported by the fact that he's forgiven Tony in comparably strenuous circumstances.
It wasn't that long ago, Iron man was fighting Thor to the death to prevent an international incident in Latveria.
In fact in those circumstances Tony didn't have to redeem himself, before Thor was fighting alongside with him in Asgard.
In the end its not going to matter whether or not YOU would ever forgive Tony, its whether Thor can forgive Tony. And I think a lot of readers, in full knowledge that this is a comic, will buy into the idea that Tony is currently redeeming himself.
So your claim that I'm not aware of the facts, is quite ridiculous. If anything i'm being a lot more open minded to comic book psychology than you are.
In regards to your arse-parasite metaphor ... Its a little aggressive and a bit weak. For parasites don't attack their hosts with the intention of killing them, they try to obtain an equilibrium of symbiosis, so they can gain natural resources for as long as possible. I'm not gaining anything from you, and I have no intention of having some wired Kmc symbiosis with your massive Ego.
I would prefer if you would stop being so malicious to everyone and post civilly without being laughably patronizing every time you express your point.
Then Civil War happened, and now they're not. It's not hard.
How is it sound?
It's not from my perspective. It's me saying that I do not think it's wise to say that Thor will forgive Stark for what he's done. I don't believe there's anything that Stark could do that would make Thor forgive him. I'm not writing, so whatever, but I feel that it'd be best if they kept it that way.
Regardless, I'm not against having one main roster of The Avengers, I just don't think the Big 3 should be teamed together. This whole idea of nurturing young mutants and superheroes would essentially be rendered void if they all come back and say: "Yeah, we'll take over again.". Thor and Steve have both got bigger shit going on now, Stark hasn't. Stark's the only one that I can see wanting to cling to that.
Thor and Steve seem like they'd do the noble thing of wanting to let a newer, more modernly in-touch roster handle things.
You're being a lot more open minded to logic being swept under the rug, sure.
Who said anything about killing anything?
You've been clinging to my existence for half a decade. Five years you've monitored me on this site. Yet I have an ego? I'm obviously special somehow for you to dedicate 1,825 days to me.
That's genuinely disturbing. It's also not part of this topic.
You may think u are some kind of spin doctor Aplha Centurai, but Alistair Campbell u are not !!!!
Half of your response amounts desperate spin; you have placed on my previous post.
I can't understand why you would have to resort to such desperate and dirty tactics to save face ... but what ever?
You can't jump on a claim before I've had a chance to justify it ... which I then proceeded to do ....
This is basically Idiosyncratic rambling, sometimes justified with wired misconceptions such as :
I think your getting the Avengers mixed up with the JSA. Parenting youngster to inherit the mantle, has not been an Avengers agenda, since Kurt Brusiek was writing, what was nearly a decade ago !!!!
This is the Spin Doctoring I refer to.
It seems that you are implying, I have been some kind cyberspace stalker for the last five years.
I believe this is in regards to my post that made yesterday in reference to the fact that you were egotistical, controversy junkie five years ago ... and you still are one now?
I'm sure you will agree making an observation with historical reference, is not the same as stalking?
If you believe it is then, a lot of people are going to have to be defined as stalkers.
I suppose we should start policing every observation made with historical reference, as militantly as we should police "spoiling" ?
Not only this ... you are implying that I was the one who brought the subject off topic, when in fact i was responding to your previous and unnecessary personal attack, comparing me with an inaccurate metaphor to a ... Arse Parasite ???
.... but to think u don't have an ego is just delusional ... All the patronizing malicious posting asside, why the hell do u feel the need to end every post with
-AC
I mean what the hell is that suppose to imply ...
"So Decrees Alpha Centurai"
or
"This is the word of the ... Alpha Canturai"
And don't pretend you do it for practical or courteous reasons, like finishing a letter. Everyone knows who you are, and the standard rudeness in the posts makes any courtesy pointless.
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In addition to that, the Thor and Cap relationship has never been that severely strained. Thor has been quoted, numerous times, outside the comics and in the MU itself as having said Cap is one of the few people he'd follow through the gates of hell.
We're not discussing Thor and Steve or Steve and Stark.
We're discussing Thor and Stark. I can see Steve and Stark repairing some kind of friendship or association, and with Steve and Thor there's no need since they're already friends. Thor and Stark? There's actually a lot more shit there than there is between any other variation.
Thor and Steve have never fought anywhere near as much. Steve and Stark have fought intensely, and Thor more or less threatened Iron Man after kicking the shit out of him not long ago.
It'd be a bit non-sensical to just have them let bygones be bygones. Redemption would be the way to go, but even then, it'd take an almighty act of redemption, in my eyes, for Stark to redeem himself in the eyes of Thor.
When you're ready to answer my questions, return to this part and answer them. Either way, stop the rambling.
No, I'm referring to The Initiative. One of its main purposes is to teach kids how to use their powers effectively, the whole idea of inheriting the mantle is just something I think would be pretty cool if they did it like a draft system. I'm not saying that's definitely how it is, just that there happens to be elements of that.
After Stamford, the leading superheroes have a debt to be paid. They owe it to the people to make sure they are an example to be followed. Thus, to just ignore all the youngsters would defeat the purpose of Civil War. There needs to be a concentrated effort to make sure such immature and costly mistakes never happen again. It's because of Civil War that Secret Invasion happened (Had Stark not been in power, they might not have succeeded in infiltrating), and as a result...Dark Reign happened.
Had Speedball and his group of try-hard teens not stormed the safehouse of Nitro and co, Dark Reign may not have even occured. To get through all this and essentially ignore that would be dumb.
This intense interest in me was flattering enough, now it's just honestly creepy. Heaven knows, though, I do love to talk about myself. So, let's test the theory, because the rudeness is you continually making things about me personally. You did that first, not me.
Anything you want to have answered regarding me personally, you can ask me in a PM and I will answer. Let's see how eager you are to clog the thread with that kind of bull when you lack an audience. Anything that strays from topic henceforth will be ignored. If you want them answered, PM me.
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