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Originally posted by Nihilist
Didnt he appear in the old man Logan series.

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Originally posted by Disappear
so, not to "spam" the thread, but where exactly is the link between 1985 clyde and the 'marquis of death'? i read the 1985 series, though i don't remember as many details as i probably should, and i know that millar spoke of all of his works tying together, but where's the transition? what lets us know that clyde was/is doom's master?

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Originally posted by Disappear
so, not to "spam" the thread, but where exactly is the link between 1985 clyde and the 'marquis of death'? i read the 1985 series, though i don't remember as many details as i probably should, and i know that millar spoke of all of his works tying together, but where's the transition? what lets us know that clyde was/is doom's master?

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So here's how they tie in. 1985 is the origin of Clyde Wyncham. And Clyde is the guy who grows up to be the greatest super-villain of all time far into the future. He is back in the Master of Doom storyline in Fantastic Four. What he's done is he's become the master of all space and time and co-exists from the end of the universe to the beginning through multiple dimensions and so on. He's just the biggest badass, you know? So you have his earliest, embryonic state in 1985 and it kind of explains who he is. So tell sell this in the most cynical way, 1985 is the origin of Dr. Doom's teacher as well as being a nice, little Stephen King superhero story, you know? And Wolverine: Old Man Logan ties into this because, without spoiling the end of 1985, the place where Clyde Wyncham is put at the end of 1985 is broken into in Old Man Logan. For people who've read the story, they know it's about the supervillains all getting together and wiping out the superheroes. So they open all the prisons and they discover this secret prison called "Clyde's Pit" which is where the worst supervillains are kept – the guys we've never heard about. And Clyde is the most dangerous supervillain of all, and he's freed in Old Man Logan. This is referred to in Fantastic Four. So the whole thing is this big, intricate web. Each thing is self-contained but hopefully they make a cool, big story. It's my own little event. After Civil War I kind of wanted to do a one-man event.

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Originally posted by CATMANEXE
i wouldnt trust ign.com

http://www.comicvine.com/clyde-wyncham/29-56254/

Clyde Wyncham :
Originally responsible for bringing about the events of 1985, Clyde Wyncham was imprisoned for his crimes by Reed Richards and locked away in Area 87 on Earth-616. His alternate-reality self is The Marquis of Death, Doctor Doom's former Master and a being of God-like power.

Alternate Versions
The Marquis of Death is a future incarnation of Clyde Wyncham from a Parallel Universe where he escaped his imprisonment from Area-87 and had his mind fully restored following an attack led by several incredibly powerful supervillains...all of whom he killed with but a thought.

Another future version of Clyde is the Doctor Doom of The Old Man Logan timeline.

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the 616 "Dooms master" version, the 1985 version, and the Old man Logan version are alternate reality counterparts.