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JediHDM
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the Family
OK, i looked them up on Dictionary.com, and...
Sati-act of a widow cremating herself on the funeral pyre of her husband to show her devotion (although, i also found that Sati was a form of child-marriage that was forbidden)
Kamala-a east-asian tree, or the powder obtained from this tree
Rama-an incarnation of Vishnu
then i found THIS: ( http://w3.gwis.com/~ajmani/lakshmi.html )
According to the puranas, she was the incarnated as the daughter of the sage Bhrigu and his wife Khyati. She was later born out of Ksheer Sagar (ocean of milk) while being churned. Hence, her appellation, Ksheera Samudra Raja Tanaya. As consort of Vishnu, she is born as his spouse whenever he incarnates. When Vishnu appeared as Vamana, Parasurama, Rama, Krishna, she appeared as Padma or Kamala, Dharani, Sita and Rukmini. She is as inseparable from Vishnu as speech from meaning or knowledge from intellect, or good deeds from righteousness.
NOw, what this means, i do not know, but i will continue to search...
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JediHDM
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found this on ( http://www.urday.com/bhrigu.htm )
Maharshi Bhrigu was one of the Manasputras (born by a wish) of Lord Brahma. He was married to Khyati, the daughter of Daksha. Two sons, Dhata and Vidhata and a daughter Shri(or Lakshmi) were born to them. Maharshi Bhrigu is also called Prajapati (creator) as he was created by Lord Brahma to help him in the process of creation of the universe.
ok, so if Bhrigu is the creator, or the Architect, then Daksha would be the mother of the matrix, and would mean that Sati is the granddaughter of the Architect, so perhaps she is so important because she CAN REWRITE/RECREATE the MATRIX!!! Not NEO, but SITA...maybe THATS why she's so important...
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Oct 18th, 2003 04:58 AM |
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JediHDM
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this is a pic of Rama, Kamala, and Sati, for those of you who are lost...
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Oct 18th, 2003 05:23 AM |
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ok, there is a tiny problem here, for one, your posts are kinda confusing. sati/sita kinda aren't the same entity... but i'm not an expert on the hindu mythology. anyways, you've got all those interesting points there, and my brain is still trying to wrap around them all, especially since i'm not a matrix expert either.
but: how can a program have a granddaughter? unless she's just another program, but then how would we know that her purpose is not just to sidetrack neo? there is so much more that i wish the architect would have said, so that we could pick it apart, but then, in his omission i suppose he said volumes.
anyways, she more than likely has some role, as does rama, because why else would the guy have been talking to the merovingian?
and, no matter how many times the matrix has been reloaded, something has to go differently this time, i firmly believe this; why else would the story be worth telling?
i mean, there's already smith's presence, which is an anomaly in itself, so in short... my brain hurts.
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JediHDM
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we are told that the two programs have a child, whether they write it together, or they actually "concieve" it, i do not know, however, that is what we are told. Ok, this is really scary...
Sati is a name of the hindu goddess Durga. Durga is an incarnation of the Mother Goddess. Hindus believe in reincarnation, so, perhaps, Sati, the little girl, is the reincarnation of EVE, or the mother of the matrix (or both...). Also, Durga killed the powerful demon Mahish (smith) and all his great commanders. Demonic forces are self-destructive but very powerful. Divine forces are constructive but slow and efficient. When demonic forces CREATE IMBALANCE, all gods unite, becoming one divine force called Shakti or Durga...So, perhaps, Neo must unite with Sati, the little girl, and perhaps even the Source or the Speak machine, in order to gain the power needed to stop Smith, similarly to (all the gods) uniting to stop Mahish (smith)...
This is only a very elaborate theory, but it is scary, and something to think about, don't you think?
oh, and these are the websites, in case you want to take a look for yourself...
http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/ind2.html
http://www.sanatansociety.org/hindu...esses/durga.htm
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Oct 18th, 2003 07:08 AM |
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furryman
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programs that the achitect created to watch over things, in a sense, are gods
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kewl...
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Oct 18th, 2003 07:06 PM |
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JediHDM
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ok, if the Speak machine is really called "Deus ex Machina", then that makes sense, cause neo would be like the "god" of the humans, and the speak machine is the Machine god, so they come together to fight SMITH, however, where would the child Sati come in...i mean, if shes really as special as the oracle says she is, she is like the offspring of both races, almost like a cyborg but both parts are seamless with the other. she is human become machine and machine become human...
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Oct 18th, 2003 08:53 PM |
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and her parents stole the Oracles termination codes for the love of the child. Does someone want to hurt the child. If so why would they if shes an offspring of both races. Smith doesn't seem to be after her.
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Oct 18th, 2003 09:07 PM |
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JediHDM
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im not sure if anyone's AFTER her, however, the oracle said she is important, so im gonna think that SOMETHING is gonna happen...
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Oct 18th, 2003 09:09 PM |
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The Omega
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JediHDM> Or what IF Sati is an “incarnation” of the Oracle?? Imagine this: The Oracle gets deleted/infected by Smith, only to be found again in the small girl?
As for Neo joining with the other “forces” in the Matrix-world, we’ve already been over the Speak-machine and how it seems to be IT, that plugs Neo into the Matrix in the trailer. We also discussed that it gives him certain upgrades (perhaps the walk in golden (! =Seraph) corridors that we’ve seen).
And that the girl may perhaps have been inserted into a pod human.
And Smith is taking over the entire Matrix (presumably). So perhaps Rama and his wife saw no other option, but to take her and leave THIS (the known) part of the Matrix and travel to another/hidden level that is connected to the Mobil Avenue.
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Oct 19th, 2003 01:25 AM |
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JediHDM
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Omega> i would accept that, and that would make the Oracle as the mother easier to believe...but just a little easier.  IF they are taking her with them, and they are leaving by choice, which i disbelieve...i think they HAVE to leave...and Neo is...WHAT IF (and this is gonna require either Neo has ALWAYS been able to wirelessly connect, or MWAM, you decide ) the little girl BROUGHT NEO back into the Matrix, so that he could take her while her parents are sent to the SOURCE...that would explain how she's standing over him when he wakes up...
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Oct 19th, 2003 01:30 AM |
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The Omega
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JediHDM> I don’t see why either “Neo’s always been able to connect through wireless” or MWTM for the girl Sati to’ve stopped Neo from really jacking out or called him back?!?
There’s a question of timing. Namely that Neo apparently arrives at Mobile Ave just at the time when Sati, Rama and (wife’s name) are ready to depart to… ? Is the Oracle behind this again? Or is she transferring to Sati (maybe her grand-daughter program-wise?). And why ARE they there in the first place?
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Oct 19th, 2003 02:00 AM |
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JediHDM
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Omega> well, i guess if Neo's mind has touched the source, then its POSSIBLE he JUST gained the ability...as for your other questions...i think it is to the SOURCE, but i'm not sure...If the oracle (or the mother, if not the oracle) is behind this, i definitely believe Neo has been pulled back into the Matrix, by either Sati or the Mother...Why they are there, i think, is up to Mero to tell us, cause i think they were captured when Rama gave Mero the codes (in M2, when Neo etc meet Mero)
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forumcrew
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what if archie was just a pimp.. and the oracle, sati, persephone.. they all are mothers
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Oct 19th, 2003 02:09 AM |
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JediHDM
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that sounds like typical male thinking to me...are you male, forumcrew? as for the question, NO, the Architect said SHE would be It's MOTHER, singular, not plural...as for Sati being a mother...SHES FOUR!!! or somewhere around there, the actress is about four...
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Oct 19th, 2003 02:11 AM |
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The Omega
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JediHDM> I don’t think they’re going to the Source. That means deletion. I’ve taken another peek at the Speak-machine shot from the trailer – especially the background – and more than ever I think there are levels and places we don’t have a clue about.
I agree Rama and family have been captured as per the scene in Reloaded. The Oracle’s termination code wasn’t enough for the Mero, we hear him ask for the “Eyes of the Oarcle”, which can be taken as the ability to see the “world” without time, maybe.
Maybe The Mero hides certain rogue programs in humans? Catch a digital self on it’s way back and transfer an exile???
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Oct 19th, 2003 02:17 AM |
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JediHDM
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well, they seem to be taking all their possessions with them, where they goin, Hawaii?! Also, the rogue programs in humans seems possible...
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Oct 19th, 2003 02:20 AM |
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The Omega
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Where are they going? Now that's the big question.
I don't know.
But I'll give it a thought. Tomorrow 
Good-night all.
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