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ash007
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 Is The Arab World Being Discriminated Against?
What are your opinion on the treatment of the Arab world over the last couple of years. Not neccesarily by governments, but has unfair media coverage somehow sub conciously turned people against them?
I ask because I recently read (don't have the source) that men of Arab descent or who had Arabic/Muslim names were 4 times more likely to be stopped and searched by police or at airports.
I also have a friend of Pakistani descent whose brother was held for 2 hours at Manchester airport while his luggage was checked, and wasn't given a good reason as to why he was being searched or detained. He never contacted a lawyer/police/the media after getting out because he didn't feel he would be heard.
Finally, is Americas support for Israel and opposition to Yasser Arafat hightening Arabic/Muslim hatred for America? 
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May 10th, 2004 01:16 AM |
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Good threads you come up with Ash. 
Yeah, I think we do sort of demonize Arabs. Americans love to have villains--somebody who they feel like they are standing up against and "fighting for the good of the country". In the late 1800's, it was the American Indians, during WWII, it was the Japanese, during the Cold War it was the Russians. Now it's the Arabs. Just another "phase" we're going through, so to speak.
Not only the news though... I noticed when I was watching Hidalgo that they portrayed all the Arabs in the movie as "the bad guys"... Not all of them were bad, but they really did give all of them a negative vibe.
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May 10th, 2004 04:15 AM |
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i don't hate any person who lives on this planet. i want to travel the 7 seas and enjoy diffrent customs. i want to make australlia my 1st destination. we all bleed, have kids, and care after our closest of family. but there are exceptions, the ones that disrupt my peacefull days.
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May 10th, 2004 05:18 AM |
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Dark Phoenix223
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Oh course they will be stopped more, it wasnt WHITE people who blew up a building and killed thousands of people was it? No, I didnt think so...
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May 10th, 2004 05:21 AM |
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BackFire
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Eh, White people have done a fair amount of destruction to the world. Look at the Nazis, they were white...
I don't think any race is any better then any other, we all cause the same amount of pain and destruction to the world. It's the natural order of things.
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May 10th, 2004 05:28 AM |
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Beyond Image
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thats what i said, you came with it, i'm just proud not to have any enemies, i have jewish and a asian friends, we don't talk about our nations past. we play games and drive each others car, at some point.
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May 10th, 2004 06:14 AM |
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Fire
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well Ash I think the problem lies in the fact that most western governments (and some western ppl) dont totaly understand the Islam, but then again a lot of arab nations dont have much respect for human rights and stuff (note that Bush has also done several things that are in violantion with those rights)
Personaly I have no problem with arabs
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May 10th, 2004 08:41 AM |
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hmmm, I feel the need to do a slight correction, FM...
some of those countries use the Sharia as their law and the punishments they use are still the same (I think) as in the time it was made. Which is I take over a 1000 years old? (correct me if I'm wrong)
So, with saying they don't respect human rights, something that's actualy a recent "invention" you criticise them for following their sacred law. That's like criticising a christian school for having prayers 
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May 10th, 2004 10:02 AM |
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Fire
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it is not because it is over a 1000 years old that it is right, IMO every country in the world should respect the human rights
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May 10th, 2004 10:22 AM |
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yerssot
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if the law says someone has to die by stone, you have to follow the law
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May 10th, 2004 10:24 AM |
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Fire
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ppl should indeed break no laws, but laws should evolve over time.
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May 10th, 2004 10:25 AM |
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yerssot
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"schoenmaker blijf bij uw leest"
look at belgium first
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May 10th, 2004 10:26 AM |
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Fire
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yea I agree, but it's not because things suck at belgium, tho we respect the human rights far more than countries that use the sharia as base for their legal system, that I can not critize another country
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May 10th, 2004 10:27 AM |
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yerssot
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oh, you can, but you should first make sure your own country fully respects them, than the Benelux THAN the EU, etc. before you go on about other countries
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May 10th, 2004 10:28 AM |
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Fire
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well that's your opinion not mine
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May 10th, 2004 10:29 AM |
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yerssot
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so, if you found out a rather discriminating law in belgium, you would still feel obligated to criticise another country eventhough yours isn't up to par itself?
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May 10th, 2004 10:30 AM |
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Fire
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yes, I would and do critize belgium as much if not more than anyother country in the world, but this thread is not about belgium
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May 10th, 2004 10:33 AM |
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yerssot
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indeed it is not, just before you go on about criticising a country for having a sharia as law (even that is not the real subject) you should make absolutely sure that your law is pure too
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May 10th, 2004 10:36 AM |
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Fire
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again that is your opinion NOT mine
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May 10th, 2004 10:36 AM |
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yerssot
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yes, cause imho it's rediculous to nag about what a country does wrong while your own country can't handle it itself
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May 10th, 2004 10:37 AM |
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