Just because something's a big hit doesn't mean it deserves to be. Look at boy bands, for example. And if Adam West hadn't been a big hit, there would have been no 1989 movie, so maybe historical impact isn't the way to go.
But that is neither here nor there; I picked MotP, even though I can't understand why punky and Mr. Parker are so down on Keaten all the time.
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BATMAN RETURNS i loved that movie, and the first was too a great movie. MOPH was really good too, but all u can do in cartton not alwasy u can do in real life. and the movies were action, and the first was a introduction they couldn go in the blah blah blha of telling all the history and it was meant for worldwide presentation, but the cartton is more for batman fans who already know him, or who will .
You are WRONG there buddy.
You see, the sole reason I am typing this stuff here, and that I've fallen completely in love with the Batman universe IS MOTP!
Yes, it was that movie that was my inroduction to the Batman world.It's because of that movie, I read Batman comics whenever I get the chance to,it is because of that movie BATMAN RULES!!
it has EARN to be praise, It was a great movie, I dont know why you people cant get over the fact that Keaton may not have the body build, He pull it off great, and was a better Batman in returns. You guys keep telling me Val Kilmer, but he was not any were as good as the way Keaton pull it off.
And Jack was the greatness Joker ever. He was better than Defo's Green Goblin and Dr OCk(Who played him??)
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Because people could not take keaton seriously for the role of Batman because of how physically wrong he was for the part.How hard can that be to understand? geez. It was like watching Al Bundy walking around Bruce wayne manor,a total joke.and if Keaton was so much better than Kilmer then how come the creator Bob Kane said he thought Kilmer was the best Batman? Keaton gave a decent performance but there was nothing special about it.All he did was copy Christopher Rheeves performance as Superman being goofy in public as Bruce wayne and cool as Batman. Bruce wayne doesnt act like a bumbling idiot who doesnt remember where things were in the house like keaton did. and sorry Romero rules as the best Joker.Nicholson was impressive as the joker but Romero was the better joker because he came a lot closer to physically fitting the role than Nicholson did.Again bad casting by burton casting someone who was not physically right for the role.The Joker is not a short bald and pudgy guy.
Oh for the love of God, get over it.... So Keaton didn't fit the physical profile of the comic properly. That is just one of the things you have to learn to live with when you deal with live action adaptations. There are very few comic book movies where the life actors looked like thier comic counterpart, you just have to suspend your belive. No matter what you say about Keaton he took the character of Batman and made it his own, and when he said "I am Batman" you belived it. As for the way the character of Bruce Wayne behaved, you should be smart enough to know that it is the writers and director that decide how he behaves not the actor.
As for Nicholson playing as the Joker, I don't know how people can say he did a bad job of it, his acting was almost flawless and he made you belive that he was a deranged lunatic with a flare for dramatics.
P.S. Kilmer the better Batman... don't make me laugh, as for Bob Kane saing he made a better Batman, I want to know when he said these and where....
Was Bob Kane already dead when Batman Forever came out???
Well any way, I dont know how blind you guys are, When I saw BATMAN when I was about 9, I was blow away with it. And Today I 23 still watching it.
It was the "Spiderman" of 89. And may people had good things to say about it.
Now about 15 or so years later, These new fans are giving Batman 89 the boot because he did not have the build?? Keaton did not look anything like AL Bundy and that is a insult.
Sure he killed in the movies. But Like I said. IT does not need to be 100 percent RIGHT to the movies. Just close. IT was close. And he was Batman, and many people today are asking Keaton to put that Batsuit back on because he did the role so well.
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At the time, I liked the first Keaton movie, but in retrospect its not that great...
Batman doesn't have machine guns in his car or a bomb, he doesn't kill.
Jack was alright, though that fall wouldn't have left him in one piece.....
Keaton was OK, too, for his distracted mannerisms. He was better in the second one, to me.
The closer a comic book movie sticks to its source material the better.....
and for the love of god you should be ashamed of yourself for loving this piece of crap garbage movie so much because Tim Burton did NOT care about making the best possible choice for the role of Bruce wayne,He only cast Keaton because he felt comfortable working with him and because he was friends with him. how hard is that to comprehend? Thats why they are making Batman Begins because so many true batman fans were pissed about the horrible casting choice of Keaton.I just liked Val better because he behaved more like Bruce than Keaton did and because he physically fit the part better.I dont see why that is so damn hard to understand. I'll try not to make you laugh,but dont make me laugh by saying Keaton was a great Batman.I also have never put all the blame on this movie on Keaton,I put it mostly on Burton for being an idiot to cast keaton in the first place and not properly doing the research that Nolan seems to doing with Begins,to make a propor batman movie.Batman killing people in cowardly fashion and the joker of all people,of course I put that blame on Burton and the script writers. Yes Jack was a good Joker,But Romero was better because for the time,thats how the joker acted back then,and physically Romero looks the part more so than Nicholson which is why I prefer Romero. as for Bob Kane saying he thought Kilmer was the best Batman because he came the closest to fitting the role,I am not sure if that magazine is still in print or not,but all you got to do is try and find an issue of comic scene from the summer 95 when that movie came out and read where Bob Kane said he thought that Kilmer was the best Batman.Ive seen many people point that out on message boards as well before where they also remember seeing where Kane said that about Kilmer,that he thought he was the best batman.
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No he wasnt.Its an insult to true batman fans for Burton to have cast Keaton for the role and to have batman kill people.He was like al bundy because just like al bundy,keaton is half bald and has a pudgy gut just like him,that is why batman fans could not take him serious in that role.The people that love that movie so much are the ones who have never read the comicbook and only know batman from what they saw in the movie.Yeah I have heard people asking keaton to come back and play the role of batman again today myself and I cant help but bust out laughing everytime I hear that because if they ever read the comicbooks they would see how he was so physically wrong he was for the role.
ITs not about looks, I am trying to drill that in your head, and besides the BAT armor hid most of Keatons, the suit made Keaton look buff. Out of the suit it other thing.
But you act like Batman was worse than Batman and Robin.
Batman is one of the best movies of all time.
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Thats why they are making Batman Begins because so many true batman fans were pissed about the horrible casting choice of Keaton.I just liked Val better because he behaved more like Bruce than Keaton did and because he physically fit the part better.I dont see why that is so damn hard to understand. I'll try not to make you laugh,but dont make me laugh by saying Keaton was a great Batman.I also have never put all the blame on this movie on Keaton,I put it mostly on Burton for being an idiot to cast keaton in the first place and not properly doing the research that Nolan seems to doing with Begins,to make a propor batman movie.Batman killing people in cowardly fashion and the joker of all people,of course I put that blame on Burton and the script writers. Yes Jack was a good Joker,But Romero was better because for the time,thats how the joker acted back then,and physically Romero looks the part more so than Nicholson which is why I prefer Romero. as for Bob Kane saying he thought Kilmer was the best Batman because he came the closest to fitting the role,I am not sure if that magazine is still in print or not,but all you got to do is try and find an issue of comic scene from the summer 95 when that movie came out and read where Bob Kane said he thought that Kilmer was the best Batman.Ive seen many people point that out on message boards as well before where they also remember seeing where Kane said that about Kilmer,that he thought he was the best batman.
