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Question Anybody here believe this?

That there are no different laws for politicians than there are for citizens like us,that presidents and politicans cant get away with crimes anymore than we can? I'll explain the reason why I ask that in about a week when I create another thread about this subect after I get some responses.I figure Ill create another thread next week instead of responding on this thread so that way everybody will know why I asked this question.


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why shouldn't we believe this? Since when did politicians or the president become more than just people?


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normaly the same laws apply with a few exceptions, but any exception can be (and so far has always been) revoked.


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Usually Parliament members (?) and the president are protected.I dont know what is called but they cannot be prosecuted or is it interrogated ( blink ). At least here it is that way.


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they have immunity


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quote:
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normaly the same laws apply with a few exceptions, but any exception can be (and so far has always been) revoked.
Yes, usually by them.Which ruins the point roll eyes (sarcastic)


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quote:
Originally posted by Fire
they have immunity
yes. thats it stick out tongue


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Idd. Parliamentary immunity.


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well i suppose it depends on the law they infringe upon, but i would think that a parliament member that is accused of murder would have to go on trial just like any other citizen


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they have a few other things as well here in belgium


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Well if he's not allowed to be questioned it makes it rather difficult messed


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It is much like to police. They are, more or less, allowed to do whatever they want. It would be the funniest thing in the world to see, but you will never witness a cop pulling over a cop of a traffic violation. They have immunity to the law because they are the law.

I would laugh my ass off if I saw a cop pull over a cop.


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in belgium immunity is revoked by the chairman of the chamber of representatives. now if it would ever become public, which prolly would that police asked to lift immunity and the chairman didnt do it for whatever reason it would
A) lead to the fall of the government (we're champion in that one)
B) cause massive civil unrest, no political party would even try pulling a stunt like that


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If I' m correct, the parliamentary immunity is only valid while they carry out their duties.


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yep but even then it can be lifted


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hey do public bus drivers have some sort of immunity to police traffic stops? I've seen big rigs pulled over, but never a bus or other form of public transportation get pulled over...


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in belgium they dont


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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
If I' m correct, the parliamentary immunity is only valid while they carry out their duties.

heb het opgezocht:
parlementaire onverantwoordelijkheid:
parlementslid mag even welk standpunt innemen in het parlement en eenderwelke uitspraak doen zonder vervolgd/veroordeeld te worden.

parlementaire onschendbaarheid:
Een parlementslid kan voor even welk misdrijf (bv ook een verkeersovertreding) niet aangehouden of vervolgd worden gedurende de periode waarin het parlement zitting heeft (behoudens bij betrapping op heterdaad). Wel kan de Kamer waartoe het parlementslid behoord diens onschendbaarheid opheffen wanneer het parket daarom verzoekt.

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quote:
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If I' m correct, the parliamentary immunity is only valid while they carry out their duties.


I think they shouldnt have immunity. Regardless, here they control everything so the ones in power will never be a suspect let alone arrested or trialled for that matter.

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hey do public bus drivers have some sort of immunity to police traffic stops? I've seen big rigs pulled over, but never a bus or other form of public transportation get pulled over...
Yeh, here bus drivers can do whatever they want! Not in a law way but because cops just ignore it.


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Anyway, everyone knows how it should go in theory. But in reality, things aren' t that black and white.


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