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Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness.

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is one of the most famous phrases in the United States Declaration of Independence.


Sooooooooo which one carries more weight our Declaration of Independence or our Marriage Vows...Which may be restricting your life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.........????.....hahaha

http://nmwp.com/articles-wedding/wedding-vows.php

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What do ya think???

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interesting indeedbig grin

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He’s mine, she’s mine. I marry you, therefore I own you. This is the spoken or unspoken reality of marriage and relationships in general. It is the means through which people buy into a manufactured sense of security and a desperately limited version of “love”. They buy the fairy stories about wedding days and happy every afters. Most marriage is not about love, but possession and control. Only a tiny few marriages are fulfilling the partners. They may not realise why they feel empty and unfulfilled, but it’s because their real potential to expand and create is being suppressed by this institutionalised prison. The consequences of walking away are too much for most people to contemplate and that is the only reason why the divorce rate, already rising rapidly, is not a tidal wave. Soon it will be.

I am not suggesting that it is not right to live with someone for whom you have great affection, even love, or that there shouldn’t be some publicly spoken commitment to each other, if that’s what the couple desire. I am saying that to institutionalise that commitment, to bring the church and state into it, and to create penalties for withdrawing at a later stage, is utterly ridiculous. How can you turn a human relationship into something regulated by the state? How can someone be expected to commit themselves at the age of 20 or 25 to another person for the rest of their lives? Who knows what lies ahead or how the two will change in their attitude to life and each other? The whole idea is crazy. Yet for thousands of years that is the mockery of love and relationships which religion has visited upon the human race. It is considered better to suffer your pain and stay in a marriage than to say you have grown apart and it’s time to move on.

I would suggest that anyone who sees life in terms of legitimate and illegitimate, is in need of some serious help.


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I say pursuit of happyness, and as long as there are liberals running amuck humping you children, stealing my stuff, and smoking a crackpipe.. we will never be happy..

If only we were all more like Deano..


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Has anyone ever noticed that whenever someone brainlessly rails about how they hate liberals, it always sounds like it came right out of the protocals of the elders of zion only with the word Jew changed to liberal?
Anyway, I don't really see a relation between marriage vows and allegiance to your country so i don't really know what your asking Debbs


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I think that's both ironic and hypocritical you should say that, considering it's liberals who are infact anti-semetic and have some sortof beef with Isral..


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Has anyone ever noticed that whenever someone brainlessly rails about how they hate liberals, it always sounds like it came right out of the protocals of the elders of zion only with the word Jew changed to liberal?
Anyway, I don't really see a relation between marriage vows and allegiance to your country so i don't really know what your asking Debbs


She is asking whether or not a restriction of homosexual marriage is infringing upon the people's right to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


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I'm saying we are given many freedoms in this country, which is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, and do Marriage vows go directly against them........Making you suffer for ever and ever and ever.....hahahaha...Though this is a little tongue and cheek, but still do they?

Read the link....

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I'm saying we are given many freedoms in this country, which is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, and do Marriage vows go directly against them...........Though this is a little tongue and cheek, but still do they?

Read the link....


Oops... well anyway in answer to your question I say no they don't.


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Given that the Powers-That-Be want to increasingly drive home the illusion that our society and life are One Big Party, being married could certainly be seen as "being in the way" of joining all that make-believe.

Flexibility in a marriage is essential, but we could rationalize away any restrictions, any responsibility, if we really tried. There are a lot of people who already do.


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I read the link.............Debbiejo are you married or thinking about getting married?

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laughing out loud .........no

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you are so obtusesmile No marriage isn't against our declaration.

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Excellent. evil face stick out tongue


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Even with all the suffering for ever and ever and ever, with no escape...?? That sounds like it's going against my rights as a citizen..haha ....What ever happened to Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"???

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Don't give the liberals any ideas, they'll want to sue the American goverment because they're depressed and that go's against the constitution of the pursuit of happyness..

And I could see that happening, despite how I think it's disturbing how we can actually sue our own goverment. That doesn't even make sense..


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I don't know. I think it should be a balancing act.


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actually the term has recently been changed to "sacrifice, obedience, and the pursuit of ter'rists"

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actually the term has recently been changed to "sacrifice, obedience, and the pursuit of ter'rists"


I bet you are no fun at a party. laughing


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no double standards, if this is about gay marriage.


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No one has any idea what Deb is talking about. laughing


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