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I think I know who Ronin really is!!!

With the newest issue of New Avengers that came out yesterday, I've changed my mind about who Ronin is.

Before I tell you who it is, let me explain why it can't be some of the others we've mentioned.

1. Silver Samurai? No. We see Ronin and Silver Samurai in the same frame (while Ronin is spying on Silver Samurai), so it can't be Silver Samurai.

2. Iron Fist? No. He came aboard through without Luke Cage knowing, and Iron Fist has little knowledge of the Hand.

2. Daredevil? No. Captain America again approaches Daredevil to join the team, but DD turns him down for the same reason as before (his identity has been made public and everyone, including the FBI, is out to get him), and he doesn't want to endanger the others with his problems. DD tells Cap that there is a person that he knows that has just as much skill as he has, as much knowledge about the Hand (the ninja sect) that he has, and that he trusts a lot.

When Captain America spoke with Ronin out of costume, we see Ronin from behind. Ronin has long (longer than shoulder length) black hair. Cap is a little uneasy about trusting Ronin because Ronin has had dealing with Kingpin in the past, but since Dardevil vouched for Ronin, that was good enough for Cap. Cap just ask Ronin to try to avoid killing people in possible.


Now, let's take a look at what we have. Someone with the same martial arts training as Daredevil. Someone who knows as much about Hydra and the Hand as Daredevil. Someone who Daredevil trust implicidly. Someone who's had "questionable" dealing with the Kingpin in the past. Someone with long black hair. Someone that Captain America hasn't really ever worked with before. Someone that Cap would feel it necessary to ask to try not to kill anyone if possibly.

Given all of this information, I am forced to conclude that Ronin is in fact...




Elektra!!! In all the hints I've read that Marvel has put out about Ronin, they've never used gender specific pronouns when referring to Ronin.
So, what do you think?


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Originally posted by BlaqChaos
With the newest issue of New Avengers that came out yesterday, I've changed my mind about who Ronin is.

Before I tell you who it is, let me explain why it can't be some of the others we've mentioned.

1. Silver Samurai? No. We see Ronin and Silver Samurai in the same frame (while Ronin is spying on Silver Samurai), so it can't be Silver Samurai.

2. Iron Fist? No. He came aboard through without Luke Cage knowing, and Iron Fist has little knowledge of the Hand.

2. Daredevil? No. Captain America again approaches Daredevil to join the team, but DD turns him down for the same reason as before (his identity has been made public and everyone, including the FBI, is out to get him), and he doesn't want to endanger the others with his problems. DD tells Cap that there is a person that he knows that has just as much skill as he has, as much knowledge about the Hand (the ninja sect) that he has, and that he trusts a lot.

When Captain America spoke with Ronin out of costume, we see Ronin from behind. Ronin has long (longer than shoulder length) black hair. Cap is a little uneasy about trusting Ronin because Ronin has had dealing with Kingpin in the past, but since Dardevil vouched for Ronin, that was good enough for Cap. Cap just ask Ronin to try to avoid killing people in possible.


Now, let's take a look at what we have. Someone with the same martial arts training as Daredevil. Someone who knows as much about Hydra and the Hand as Daredevil. Someone who Daredevil trust implicidly. Someone who's had "questionable" dealing with the Kingpin in the past. Someone with long black hair. Someone that Captain America hasn't really ever worked with before. Someone that Cap would feel it necessary to ask to try not to kill anyone if possibly.

Given all of this information, I am forced to conclude that Ronin is in fact...




Elektra!!! In all the hints I've read that Marvel has put out about Ronin, they've never used gender specific pronouns when referring to Ronin.
So, what do you think?


But Ronnin doesn't have boobs ? confused Only joking mate Kewl theory.

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maybe it's a special suit.

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thats very good deductive skills..........


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I dunno. Ronin looks too big to be Elektra.


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Ronin has black skin. Check out him getting sliced up by throwing stars, under his suit it's dark skin.


But Elektra seems to be the overall favorite as who people think Ronin is.


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I think it would suck if it is Elektra.

Last thing we need is another street level person who wouldn't be able to do anything to a cosmic threat. The New Avengers is already full of those.

Elektra doesn't bring anything to the table but peak human h2h like the Daredevil. No brains, no computer genius, nada.

No wonder the New Avengers are gonna get chumped by the Thunderbolts.


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I think it would suck if it is Elektra.

Last thing we need is another street level person who wouldn't be able to do anything to a cosmic threat. The New Avengers is already full of those.

Elektra doesn't bring anything to the table but peak human h2h like the Daredevil. No brains, no computer genius, nada.

No wonder the New Avengers are gonna get chumped by the Thunderbolts.
It's about good comics and the interaction of characters with eachother and that interaction to the plot.. what does it matter if Galactus could beat them up or not?

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It's about good comics and the interaction of characters with eachother and that interaction to the plot.. what does it matter if Galactus could beat them up or not?


Basically, yeah.

Sentry is on the team now, so they rely on him and C.L.O.C for the heavy jobs.


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It's about good comics and the interaction of characters with eachother and that interaction to the plot.. what does it matter if Galactus could beat them up or not?



I'm not an Elektra fan. The whole mean "*****" attitude on the Avengers is already occupied by Wolverine.

I'm also not a fan of Sentry doing all the heavy duty work because none of his team can help.

Or a fan of the Avengers struggling with a problem that the Sentry could probably take care of in two minutes.

I hope Ronin isn't Elektra!

Make it Dr. Strange in a Ninja Suit and i'll be happy.


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Doesn't ronin have to beat Sentry at some point?? Or did that happen already? How is Elektra going to do that? Otherwise, interesting theory.


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I think that was a rumor.


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I'm not an Elektra fan. The whole mean "*****" attitude on the Avengers is already occupied by Wolverine.

I'm also not a fan of Sentry doing all the heavy duty work because none of his team can help.

Or a fan of the Avengers struggling with a problem that the Sentry could probably take care of in two minutes.

I hope Ronin isn't Elektra!

Make it Dr. Strange in a Ninja Suit and i'll be happy.

I agree, except for the part about Strange in a ninja suit. They really are a street level team and I hate that.

Quite frankly, Thor needs to get his ass back to the 616-verse and onto this team.


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I know who ronin is SPOILER BELOW















Ronin is.......

















My Mother!!


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I haven't a clue, I'm sure someone could go through a list of Hand trainees, or people with a connection to the Hand, or Yakuza, or the Harada's, or Hydra, and find someone whom Daredevil knows who would fit the clues.

The costume design is stirking, I really like it. Finch did a great job this issue. Can't wait for his Moon Knight. It's the first time I've really enjoyed his work.


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Re: I think I know who Ronin really is!!!

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Elektra!!! In all the hints I've read that Marvel has put out about Ronin, they've never used gender specific pronouns when referring to Ronin.
So, what do you think?


sorry dude it couldnt be her. cuz it seems that cap knows very little about "ronin."

"im not exactly thrilled with what intel i have about you"

^that's what cap said... not verbatim, but you get the point

id say its shang-chi, but that's just me


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It's not Shang Chi, Shang's Chinese.

It's Hawkeye! Gotta be Hawkeye. Hawkeye, Swordsman III, Ronin, all the same person!


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Aye, Aye!

I have a clue.

It's X23 or whatever the broad's name is, the Wolverine clone. I looked up a site and it had next years solicits which are almost always right and it had a mini series for X23. Guess what it was called?

X23:Ronin.


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Heh, nah.

It's probably either Blade or Black Panther.


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