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Ax3l
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Is life but a dream?

Well it is speculated that when you die, you actually wake up. I mean, wouldn't that be insane?

Heres some interesting things:

You know when you sleep, you look at the clock and lets say its 11:34 am. You fall asleep and you're having this spectacularly vivid and long dream, you wake up and you would expect it to be morning but its only 11:38 am. When you die, there is 12 minuetes of brain activity after the heart stops beating. Could this 12 minuetes keep us in a dream state? Could those 12 min. be a re-living of those years you were alive?

I'm not really explaining it well, if you want to know more about it, there is a movie you should watch....i cant think of it right now, but i will let you know tomorrow..its by the same guy that wrote Dazed and Confused.

Please.....ponder


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Possibly.

I'm not sure if it would be a dream per se, but I find the idea of a subjective singular consciousness to be really interesting.

I have many theories. Bits from all over the place, bits I've come up with.

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We never experience death, we only experience life. So a dream before you die, would just be a part of life. Are we in that now, no, at least I am not.


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Possibly.

I'm not sure if it would be a dream per se, but I find the idea of a subjective singular consciousness to be really interesting.

I have many theories. Bits from all over the place, bits I've come up with.

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oh please, share some, by all means


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Well the one that I have chosen to believe, after looking into it myself, is the one often expressed by Bill Hicks, Maynard throughout certain songs. The idea of a singular consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. That we are spirit in our true form and that we are eternal beings in that sense. We're in our bodies for a purpose, but that is all it is. Just a stage.

Whilst I always found this interesting, I wasn't about to just up and believe it. It just made genuine sense to me in time. I also entertain the idea of reincarnation but...in a way that ties in with the previous. You now and then hear about these babies who have outstanding, almost impossible knowledge and talent at ridiculously young ages. I often though of what it'd be like if that was a result of a spirit once again experiencing another "go around". I can confirm none of what I am saying, they are after all, beliefs.

I also find the concept of past lives intriguing. Instead of passing these people off as wackos we should just listen to them. I'm sure we'd learn a lot.

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i've thought about this too. that this is all just a dream state. i sometimes wonder that we'll just wake up and remember just a few things as we do our own dreams. we don't remember every single "dream" that we have. so maybe when we all "wake up", it'll be the same thing. and on a truly different wave, sometimes i wonder if part of us are truly passed on into our children when we make them and when we die, we wake up and live, in a manner of speaking, through our children. but who knows, right?
and the movie was "waking life."


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disregarding the point of the metaphor, waking up is really really annoying and i do it everyday. but for the point of the metaphor, i dont know what happens when you die but i find myself going through lots of epiphanies every month. i do like the buddhist approach to it though

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i dont know what happens when you die but i find myself going through lots of epiphanies every month.


Maybe you should consider buying them in bulk.


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We never experience death, we only experience life. So a dream before you die, would just be a part of life. Are we in that now, no, at least I am not.


According to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, we do experience death, even more intensely than we experience life. We can attain enlightenment in the bardo of death, because the physical elements that supported the mind is gone and pure consciousness remains. You can even control in which way you are reborn...if you meditated enough in life.

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According to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, we do experience death, even more intensely than we experience life. We can attain enlightenment in the bardo of death, because the physical elements that supported the mind is gone and pure consciousness remains. You can even control in which way you are reborn...if you meditated enough in life.


I wary about people who seem to know too much about the after life.


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People are still asking about that matrix style crap ?


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If a beautiful dream can instantly turn into a nightmare, and if a nightmare can turn into a beautiful dream......then, yes...there is a chance for life to be just a dream....


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The dream has always been my favorite metaphor (and it is an old one) for a reality in the infinite consciousness of God. Further, if one is familiar with lucid dreaming, this is also a great metaphor for understanding what the consciousness of Buddha, Jesus, Moses, etc might've been like.


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I don't know. Jump off a bridge and see if you wake up before you hit the ground.

(Not really! I don't want any angry letters from your parents' lawyers. But seriously, what's the point? It doesn't matter whether life's "real," because we have to treat it like it is whether it is or isn't.)


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I don't know. Jump off a bridge and see if you wake up before you hit the ground.

(Not really! I don't want any angry letters from your parents' lawyers. But seriously, what's the point? It doesn't matter whether life's "real," because we have to treat it like it is whether it is or isn't.)


You are right. Thinking about the after life is a waist of this life.


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Thinking about it isn't a WASTE.

Dwelling on it to the point of depression or consumption is.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well the one that I have chosen to believe, after looking into it myself, is the one often expressed by Bill Hicks, Maynard throughout certain songs. The idea of a singular consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. That we are spirit in our true form and that we are eternal beings in that sense. We're in our bodies for a purpose, but that is all it is. Just a stage.

Whilst I always found this interesting, I wasn't about to just up and believe it. It just made genuine sense to me in time. I also entertain the idea of reincarnation but...in a way that ties in with the previous. You now and then hear about these babies who have outstanding, almost impossible knowledge and talent at ridiculously young ages. I often though of what it'd be like if that was a result of a spirit once again experiencing another "go around". I can confirm none of what I am saying, they are after all, beliefs.

I also find the concept of past lives intriguing. Instead of passing these people off as wackos we should just listen to them. I'm sure we'd learn a lot.

-AC


There is little to no scientific evidence to support the idea of the spirit or the soul ....

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There is little to no scientific evidence to support the idea of the spirit or the soul ....


I fail to see where I said there was or that it matters to me in the slightest. Which you would have known if you read this:

"I can confirm none of what I am saying, they are after all, beliefs."

Spiritual beliefs aren't exactly best friends with scientific ones and if you need that explained, you're beyond help.

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Thinking about it isn't a WASTE.

Dwelling on it to the point of depression or consumption is.

-AC


Well, I meant dwelling, but it didn't sound as good to me. All those years of song writing sometimes takes over. laughing


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I fail to see where I said there was or that it matters to me in the slightest. Which you would have known if you read this:

"I can confirm none of what I am saying, they are after all, beliefs."

Spiritual beliefs aren't exactly best friends with scientific ones and if you need that explained, you're beyond help.

-AC



'Spiritual beliefs aren't exactly best friends with scientific ones and if you need that explained, you're beyond help.'

There is no need for patronisation !!!!!!!!

All your previous theories are based on some form of spiritual basis.

'I fail to see where I said there was or that it matters to me in the slightest.'

It probably does matter to you ... 'Well the one that I have chosen to believe, after looking into it myself, is the one often expressed by Bill Hicks, Maynard throughout certain songs

.... also entertain the idea of reincarnation but'

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