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Warning Defending the dogma

alongside the illusion that we are free, is the illusion that we are
different. Sound like a contradiction? Here I am saying we are unique
and at the same time that we have a misguided belief that we are
different. There is no contradiction.
We are unique within our multidimensional consciousness, but within
the limited vision of the Hassle-Free Zone there are endless “differences”
we call dogmas which are, in truth, not different at all. The devotees of
Christian dogma think they are different from those who are slaves
ofjewish dogma. The fundamentalist rabbi believes he is different from
the fundamentalist ayatollah. But they are not. They are the same thought
pattern with a slightly different dress on. They are all prisoners of a
dogma who wish to convert other prisoners to accept the same dogma.
They all use fear, guilt and other forms of imposition to manipulate and
frighten people into line. Their line. What is the difference between the
nuns at a Roman Catholic convent using fear and guilt to control the
thinking of children and young people, and a rabbi or muslim cleric using
the fear of hell and damnation and enormous family pressures to do the
same? Answer: nothing. They are different aspects of the same state of
mind, but they think they are different to the point where their dogmas
come into physical conflict. They are all arrogant enough to claim they
know the “will of God” and they claim to have been chosen to tell
everyone what God insists they believe. Poor old God must have a
production line turning out His different “wills”. Either that, or He (it’s
always a “He”) has great difficulty making up His mind. God used to be
indecisive, but now He’s not so sure. Are we really being asked to accept
that some God is sitting on a cloud selecting his chosen people and then
ordering them to control and manipulate everyone else?
People are conditioned to be Christians, Jews and Muslims
after they are born. When we take on someone else’s beliefs, lock, stock
and barrel, and especially when we need to be frightened into accepting
them, we walk a very dark and dangerous road: for ourselves and for
the world.
But so few have learned this lesson of the centuries. We still believe
too much and think too little. We “feel” intuitively even less. The
rigidity and manipulation of “beliefs” (dogma and prejudice) is how
we are controlled. Today, with the dawn of the 21st century almost
upon us, we still have men in dog collars and frocks sitting around a
table decoding what we should or should not believe. Billions of
people continue to be controlled and limited by their devotion to the
false gods called Popes, priests, archbishops, rabbis, ayatollahs and
their like across the spectrum of religious beliefs which have been
peddled and poisoned over the centuries by those in pursuit of control.
Even worse, the desire is to pressure others to believe the same and
whenever anyone asks an unanswerable question of religion (not
difficult) out is wheeled the trusty break-the-glass-and-use-in-allemergencies
reply of “have faith”. I remember being told on a
Northern Ireland radio programme after I listed a few religious
contradictions that these were things that God did not want us to
know! Have we learned nothing with the passage of time? And for
those who have evolved beyond the child-like state of off-the-peg
religion, there are other dogmas waiting to ensnare them. Political,
scientific, environmental and “New Age” dogma among them. As
with religion, these “opposites” are merely aspects of the same state
of mind. I am told that Communism (the far Left) is different from
Nazism (the far Right). The idea is ludicrous. The far Left, as
symbolised by Josef Stalin, believes in centralised control, military
dictatorship, and concentration camps. The far Right, as symbolised
by Adolf Hitler, believes in centralised control, military dictatorship,
and concentration camps. Spot the difference? Of course not. When
you peel away the smoke-screen rhetoric, they are the same. Yet these
two “opposites” went to war with each other and across the world the
Communists go on “anti-Nazi” marches and Nazis protest against the
Communists. Conflict through the ages has not been between
opposites, but versions of the same state of mind: the desire to control
others. Communism and Nazism did not fight for freedom in the Second World War; it was a battle to decide which aspect of the same
thought pattern would control the vast lands of Eastern Europe.
I see “Socialists” claiming to be different from “Capitalists”. Not at
their core they are not. Socialism believes in taking more and more
from the Earth and using these “resources” to produce more and more
“things” at the expense of the planet. Capitalism believes in taking more
and more from the Earth and using these “resources” to produce more
and more “things” at the expense of the planet. Socialism believes that
this production should be controlled by the few at the centre who dictate
the economic pQlicy. Capitalism believes in the survival of the
strongest which leads to control by the few at the centre, who dictate
economic policy. On the fundamentals, they are two sides of the same
thought wave and yet socialism and capitalism (cartelism) are portrayed
as opposite dogmas offering an alternative view. On the Right, they
wish to stop the free flow of information which challenges their dogma.
On the Left, the Robot Radicals, as I call them, wish to stop the free
flow of information which challenges their dogma. The Right seek to
assassinate the character of those who disagree with them and to deny
a public platform for their views. The Left, the Robot Radicals, seek to
assassinate the character of those who disagree with them and to deny
a public platform for their views. Again, spot the difference? My own
experience of “Nazi” behaviour has almost always come from those
claiming to be “anti-Nazis”. The anti-fascist fascists are a wonder to
behold. The mental gymnastics and self delusion required for such a
state of mind defies the imagination.
I welcome the efforts of the Christian
Patriots to make public the plans to create a centralised global tyranny
and a microchipped, robotic, population. But what is their alternative?
The return to an imposed Christian dogma and national flag waving.
Some call for the people behind the conspiracy to be hanged and for
people to defend themselves with guns and violence. You don’t stop a
tyranny with another tyranny. You don’t stop violence with violence. And
you don’t eliminate hatred with more hatred. You just double the hatred.
Nor do you remove divisions by waving your flag, putting the wants of your country above the needs of others on the planet, and claiming that
your nation and people are the best in the world.
You stop a tyranny with freedom for all; you end violence by being
peaceful; you eliminate hatred with love; you end dogma with freedom
of expression; and you remove divisions by realising that all of us are
One - all aspects of the same infinite consciousness we call God.

when
you see physical and verbal conflict it is always between aspects of
the same state of mind - oppo-sames - and never between opposites.
Here lies the whole basis of divide and rule: create divisions with
manufactured, non-existent “differences” and then play them off
against each other.

Let us recap. Humanity is in prison because:

a It gives its mind away and concedes its responsibility and power to
think for itself.
b It is consumed by fear, especially the fear of what other people think
- the fear of being different and unique.
c It seeks to impose its dogmas on everyone and denies the right of
each of us to be different and have our own, unique, view.

In the light of this, the means of escape from the global Alcatraz is
breathtakingly obvious:
A We think for ourselves and refuse to allow others to tell us what to
do, be and say.
B We let go of fear because fear is our creation. We don’t have to
fear, we choose to. We don’t have to hide our uniqueness, we choose
to. We can make another choice just as easily.
C We respect our own right to believe what we choose and, crucially,
we respect everyone’s right to do the same, free from pressure,
ridicule, condemnation and imposition of any kind.

In those few short sentences you have the means to transform this
world from a prison to a paradise. Not one gun needs to be fired, not
one trench needs to be dug, nor one new political “ism” created. All it
takes is for you to respect your right to be different and to respect
everyone’s right to that same freedom.
Yes. It really is that simple.


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I just woke up and NOW...you want me to use my eyes????? Too long....needs coffee............needs to click off this thread...........hurts eyes......can't stand....the...pain.....I.....I.......ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


OH...sorry....I'll read it later.

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read it when you have time


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Deano...you didn't just right that...whats yur source?....


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Deano...you didn't just right that...whats yur source?....


from the book 'i am me, i am free' by david icke


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Deano
from the book 'i am me, i am free' by david icke


Okie......


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so what do u think


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Deano
so what do u think


I think its too much to read....and I am not bored enough yet... will be at some pint though.....


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Humanity needs more free thinkers. yes


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but not icke as he is quite insane


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Originally posted by whirlysplat
but not icke as he is quite insane


he isnt
he's tryin to help people like you
have u read any of the post at all
whats so insane about what he is saying?


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Nothing wrong with free thinking.....just need to look at all the other sources.....then compare......btw...never did read any of Icky's stuff....so can't comment there.

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if u have read the holographic universe
you should definetly check out 'tales from the time loop'


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I always read before trying to converse....I wonder how many others do?

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if you want the ebook...i can send it yousmile


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whats your email?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Deano
he isnt
he's tryin to help people like you
have u read any of the post at all
whats so insane about what he is saying?


I don't discriminate, when I first heard of him I took the time to listen to the man, read his material. Listen to what he was saying.

Personally? I stopped considering him worth my time when he started claiming we're run by a secret society of reptilian man/animal crossovers.

But what can I say? Stupidity is one of my buttons.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't discriminate, when I first heard of him I took the time to listen to the man, read his material. Listen to what he was saying.

Personally? I stopped considering him worth my time when he started claiming we're run by a secret society of reptilian man/animal crossovers.

But what can I say? Stupidity is one of my buttons.

-AC


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Re: Defending the dogma

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Deano

Let us recap. Humanity is in prison because:

In the light of this, the means of escape from the global Alcatraz is
breathtakingly obvious:
A: We think for ourselves and refuse to allow others to tell us what to
do, be and say.



the problem with this one is that it can lead to anarchy....even if you say some rules should be established in order for us to coexists peacefully: that statement would almost contradict itself....

and i agree to some extent of what you've posted...

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