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Deano
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life As Awakening

http://www.new-enlightenment.com/life_awakening.htm

The difificulty is that the ordinary person isn't able--or willing--to acknowledge when his habitual consciousness (the dream state) leads him astray; when his view of the world causes him to mistake a dictatorial police state for a democracy, a mindless tyrant for a "fearless leader," and a pre-emptive, unjustified war for a struggle against terrorism and the spreading of democracy.

The dream state of ordinary life is, of course, different from dreaming during regular sleep. This special state of dreaming sleep is an extraordinarily difficult condition to become aware of--or acknowledge. People in this dream world take it to be reality; they don't believe they're asleep--in fact they'll argue strenuously with anyone who says they're asleep and dreaming. This unusual dream world becomes a mass delusion when enough people accept the illusory domain as real. The demonic cabal presently creating this dream world can define reality for the sleepwalkers.

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Wake up! Snap out of it! Something's going on and you need to wake up! You've fallen into a trance or something, and you need to rouse yourself. You think you're awake but you're not - and as you've been sleeping, all kinds of hideous things have been happening.

I know that you think you're awake; your eyes are open, and you've been performing various motor functions and skills - after all, you are reading this. But you're still not really awake! You've been going through these actions as if you're in a trance, or under a spell or something, and you're not really awake; you're not really aware. It's very hard to explain the state you're in, but if you'd just snap out of it, you'd see what I'm talking about.

Let me put it another way. Things aren't really as you think they are. The thoughts you think aren't really your thoughts. You think them because somebody else wants you to think them. And the same applies to your actions. You do what ever it is you do because you've been programmed to do it. You don't realize it, but you've been programmed to think, act, and feel only within certain prescribed parameters. The bottom line, straight and simple, is: you are not really who you think you are - you think you are someone other than your own True Self.

You've been sold a complete bill of goods, right down to the very basics. What you believe, what you think is right or wrong, good or bad, what you should and shouldn't do, even who and what you think you are. But it's all a dream, an illusion, the result of the indoctrination and programming you've been subjected to. But underneath all this, the real YOU still exists.

You came into this life with a plan and a purpose. And you have an awesome power at your command. It lays silently inside, waiting. . . But you need to wake up and remember. Remember who you really are. Remember what you came here to do. And remember the awesome power. It is of great consequence that you do. I do realize that this must sound pretty crazy to you. But let me assure you; it is the truth. I wish there was something I could say or do that could instantly snap you out of it, but it doesn't work that way.


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So ok I read you're quote and I'm left thinking what the ****? What exactly is it supposed to mean? I can understand that we only know what certain people want us to know but to say we have been programmed, that we're in a trance and while I type this i'm sleeping blink

Get a hobby mate or a job, something to keep you busy and away from this shit.

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So ok I read you're quote and I'm left thinking what the ****? What exactly is it supposed to mean? I can understand that we only know what certain people want us to know but to say we have been programmed, that we're in a trance and while I type this i'm sleeping blink

Get a hobby mate or a job, something to keep you busy and away from this shit.


This is some of the aspects of Buddhism taken out of context and a lot of strange stuff added.

We are asleep because we do not always live in the now. This attachment to the past and future causes suffering.


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Re: life As Awakening

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Originally posted by Deano
http://www.new-enlightenment.com/life_awakening.htm

The difificulty is that the ordinary person isn't able--or willing--to acknowledge when his habitual consciousness (the dream state) leads him astray; when his view of the world causes him to mistake a dictatorial police state for a democracy, a mindless tyrant for a "fearless leader," and a pre-emptive, unjustified war for a struggle against terrorism and the spreading of democracy.

The dream state of ordinary life is, of course, different from dreaming during regular sleep. This special state of dreaming sleep is an extraordinarily difficult condition to become aware of--or acknowledge. People in this dream world take it to be reality; they don't believe they're asleep--in fact they'll argue strenuously with anyone who says they're asleep and dreaming. This unusual dream world becomes a mass delusion when enough people accept the illusory domain as real. The demonic cabal presently creating this dream world can define reality for the sleepwalkers.


sad You are either for or against. You either see the right or the left. There is either an up or a down. But never do you see the middle hand, nor the center piece, nor the focal point of the road. They attack an enemy they do not have. They sneer and bite what is not there. They grow angry and tired, frustrated and calm for no purpose or cause. He will leave, and what wil you have? A triumph? A victory? Or will you simply have yet another loss? They cry and complain (the people) how terrible he is, how horrible it[war] is, what a crime this country has become. But certainly no one can be so stupid as to be blinded to the fact.

Those that are "awake" command those whom are "asleep".

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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."


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So ok I read you're quote and I'm left thinking what the ****? What exactly is it supposed to mean? I can understand that we only know what certain people want us to know but to say we have been programmed, that we're in a trance and while I type this i'm sleeping blink

Get a hobby mate or a job, something to keep you busy and away from this shit.


when i come on the net, i go to rense.com and thats where i got the link.


oh i got a job. got loads of hobbies. i go out every weekends, i play football sundays and wednesdays,i play in a darts and pool team...yeh im ok. but thanks for your concern, im sure you didnt want my life story.

as always u miss the point of the link. you are programmed, whether u like it or not


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This is some of the aspects of Buddhism taken out of context and a lot of strange stuff added.

We are asleep because we do not always live in the now. This attachment to the past and future causes suffering.


glad someone see's the point here..


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glad someone see's the point here..


Yes, I have read what you asked me to read and I see the source, but like we talked before, it's still outward flowing.


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Re: life As Awakening

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Originally posted by Deano
http://www.new-enlightenment.com/life_awakening.htm

The difificulty is that the ordinary person isn't able--or willing--to acknowledge when his habitual consciousness (the dream state) leads him astray; when his view of the world causes him to mistake a dictatorial police state for a democracy, a mindless tyrant for a "fearless leader," and a pre-emptive, unjustified war for a struggle against terrorism and the spreading of democracy.

The dream state of ordinary life is, of course, different from dreaming during regular sleep. This special state of dreaming sleep is an extraordinarily difficult condition to become aware of--or acknowledge. People in this dream world take it to be reality; they don't believe they're asleep--in fact they'll argue strenuously with anyone who says they're asleep and dreaming. This unusual dream world becomes a mass delusion when enough people accept the illusory domain as real. The demonic cabal presently creating this dream world can define reality for the sleepwalkers.


Cabals aside, this psychospiritual perspective is thousands of years old. To those who are already familiar with it, the "current source" of this material is obviously familiar with the perennial philosophy, the common thread which runs through every esoteric tradition.

There is a lot of truth in this point of view, but as so often happens, truth is stretched, distorted, corrupted to suit the ego of he/she who thinks they have come to save mankind.

Piece of friendly advice: save yourself first. Then you will be a natural example to others.


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Re: life As Awakening

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Originally posted by Deano
http://www.new-enlightenment.com/life_awakening.htm

The difificulty is that the ordinary person isn't able--or willing--to acknowledge when his habitual consciousness (the dream state) leads him astray; when his view of the world causes him to mistake a dictatorial police state for a democracy, a mindless tyrant for a "fearless leader," and a pre-emptive, unjustified war for a struggle against terrorism and the spreading of democracy.

The dream state of ordinary life is, of course, different from dreaming during regular sleep. This special state of dreaming sleep is an extraordinarily difficult condition to become aware of--or acknowledge. People in this dream world take it to be reality; they don't believe they're asleep--in fact they'll argue strenuously with anyone who says they're asleep and dreaming. This unusual dream world becomes a mass delusion when enough people accept the illusory domain as real. The demonic cabal presently creating this dream world can define reality for the sleepwalkers.




What the hell...This is utter nonsense, please be more clear.

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click the link then


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The funny thing is, how can you not be you? No matter how fraud your live is no matter how much of it you miss, no matter how much of your actions were programmed... You are still you, beacuse all those programmed things define you. To say I am not who I am because I am programmed to be something is stupid. Because i'm still just that.


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The Matrix has us all, save me Neo lol...Siefer woke up and realised the matrix was better so why the f*$k woukd you wanna wake up?


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A tyrant to some is a leader to others........................truth is subjective based on a person's life and where they live.

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At times one must ask, what if we like it asleep?....


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When your awake your in a school of learning, when you sleep you are in reality

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