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Animal Man VS. Wonder Woman
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Animal Man VS. Wonder Woman

Who takes it?

Debate.


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Animal Man.

This happens on DC Earth, I suppose? He can take the powers of Superman, if he wishes to do so.

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Buddy (as well as Maxine), stands in direct contact with the Red/Lifeweb/Morphogenetic Field of Earth. Hence, he can mimic any abilities of any animal, either by focusing on a specific animal near him, or, as he learnt later, by drawing power directly from the Red. Since the Red is part of every animal who has ever walked the Earth, flown the air, or swum the sea, Animal Man can even mimic the abilities of extinct species.

Among the "animal powers" Buddy has been known to use are: the strength of a T-Rex, the flight of a bird, the swimming ability of a fish, the speed of an ant, the wall-crawling of a spider, the jumps of a flea, the sonic blast of a pistol shrimp, the sense of smell of a moth, the stench of a skunk, the color changing of a chameleon, the agility of a snake, the electricity of an electric eel, the worm's ability to replace lost bodyparts, and even the reproduction abilities of bacteria. He does not have to use wings to fly as a bird, or gills to breath as a fish underwater, but occasionally he has been known to mimic the actual appearances of animals - for example adopting the claws of a wolverine temporarily.

In addition to his mimic abilities, Animal Man can make contact with animals, empathize with, "talk" to, and, to a lesser degree, control them. He can also transfer his mind to living animals of any kind, using their bodies as long as he wants to. This ability to transfer his life essence has allowed him to survive even when his body has been killed.

A drawback of Animal Man's powers is that he is not always able to control the inputs from the Red. Sometimes, he has absorbed unwanted animal behaviour, such as instinctive rage or rut. The longer he stays in contact with the Red, the less man and more animal he seems to become. He has frequently felt alienated to the human race, something which once made him declare war against our destructive civilization.

Since man is as much an animal as anything else, Buddy could possibly use his powers on human beings as well, but for unknown reasons, he has avoided doing that to this day. Nor is it known what would happen if Buddy would try to use his abilities on an alien animal, or if he would get access to the Morphogenetic Field of another planet.

Potentially, Animal Man disposes of the universe's primal forces. On rare occasions, he has been able to tap into the raw power of the Red, draw pure energy from it and emit it as blasts of force. His abilities once even allowed him to create an entire universe, in cooperation with fellow animal masters Vixen and Tristess. If he were to use the full extent of his powers, Animal Man could very well be one of the mightiest beings on Earth. As it is now, the "man" in him puts a limit to his power.


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Animal Man.

This happens on DC Earth, I suppose? He can take the powers of Superman, if he wishes to do so.


He's never done it before so he most likely wouldn't. I still say with the versatility he has assuming it's not some sort of barren field he could potentially beat Wonder woman. Currently i'm thinking 5,5 for Animal man.

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Since the Red is part of every animal who has ever walked the Earth, flown the air, or swum the sea, Animal Man can even mimic the abilities of extinct species.


I think Superman counts as mammal.


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Wait a second. Is she immune to venom? Because he could just take the most dangerous venom on earth (some water snake i think, or some frog or something) and simply touch WW. Only problem i'd see is the lasso. But even so, his metamorphic powers should allow him to even ......turn into a fly and fly out of it or something right? Or does that whole "magic lasso" crap also mean that it's impossible to get out once caught?

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think Superman counts as mammal.


Nor is it known what would happen if Buddy would try to use his abilities on an alien animal

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Nor is it known what would happen if Buddy would try to use his abilities on an alien animal

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Well, this ability could be useful too:

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He can also transfer his mind to living animals of any kind, using their bodies as long as he wants to. This ability to transfer his life essence has allowed him to survive even when his body has been killed.


I suppose Wonder Woman doesn't count as animal...?


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He wouldn't count as a mammal. He isn't like any besides the looks of a human. His bio-physiology is entirely different.


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He wouldn't count as a mammal. He isn't like any besides the looks of a human. His bio-physiology is entirely different.


What about all the other DC heroes? Aquaman? Flash?


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Well, this ability could be useful too:



I suppose Wonder Woman doesn't count as animal...?


No......she's a BEAST







































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Assuming the animals he needs are present, Animal Man could adopt the boneless, slick attributes of an Eel's body, and slide out of the lasso.

I don't know that poison would affect Wonder Woman, but since she's a clay statue animated to life by the Gods, I'm leaning towards 'no.'

There's really nothing in the animal kingdom of earth that could outstrength Wonder Woman. It's possible that if Buddy adopted the weight of a Blue Whale and jumped on her.... well, no, even that would hardly slow her down.

He'd have to draw pure power from the Red in order to be able to compete with Wonder Woman at all. And that would entail a possible sacrifice of his humanity--I imagine that in all but the most extreme circumstances, Buddy would try to avoid doing it.


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Animal man wins this , their was a huge thread on Animal man a while back and we realised that he just about owns everyone since as soon as you touch the planet he's on you become one with the red .


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Assuming the animals he needs are present, Animal Man could adopt the boneless, slick attributes of an Eel's body, and slide out of the lasso.

I don't know that poison would affect Wonder Woman, but since she's a clay statue animated to life by the Gods, I'm leaning towards 'no.'

There's really nothing in the animal kingdom of earth that could outstrength Wonder Woman. It's possible that if Buddy adopted the weight of a Blue Whale and jumped on her.... well, no, even that would hardly slow her down.

He'd have to draw pure power from the Red in order to be able to compete with Wonder Woman at all. And that would entail a possible sacrifice of his humanity--I imagine that in all but the most extreme circumstances, Buddy would try to avoid doing it.


That's what i was thinking, that he can't break out with strength, since the lasso can't be broken, but that he doesn't have to.

Since she does bleed when hurt, and gets bruised and such, and in that elseworld comic Kingdom something she and Supes had a baby i'm willing to think her body functions pretty much like a human's, even if on a higher level. Not to mention that one single drop of that venom can kill like a dozen people, and animal man could pump gallons worth into her simply by touch. I'd say that should have an effect on her unless it's stated somewhere that she's immune to poison.

Hey, if a whale falling on Namor took him out, i'm sure it'd hurt WW big grin (joking).

I'm not sure if it'd be in-character to access the red in that fashion, but if there's no CIS involved, he probably would.

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Wait a second. Is she immune to venom? Because he could just take the most dangerous venom on earth (some water snake i think, or some frog or something) and simply touch WW. Only problem i'd see is the lasso. But even so, his metamorphic powers should allow him to even ......turn into a fly and fly out of it or something right? Or does that whole "magic lasso" crap also mean that it's impossible to get out once caught?

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Yes. WW is immune to any and all poisons due to her gifts from Demeter. Joker's best venom had no effect on her. Not to mention I doubt any animal poison would have absolutely any effect on someone who's immune to radiation as well....


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And it depends on who you ask if WW is a mammal or not. I doubt it would work because godly magic is funky like that...


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And it depends on who you ask if WW is a mammal or not. I doubt it would work because godly magic is funky like that...


Thats what i was thinking. Because her body seems to function like an animal's. Not nec. mammal, since animal man has taken on bird, and reptile features before. But seeing as how there's godly magic involved, i can understand why it might not work.

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Has darkseid ever touched earths ground , Because if he has then wonder-women is toast.


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Thats what i was thinking. Because her body seems to function like an animal's. Not nec. mammal, since animal man has taken on bird, and reptile features before. But seeing as how there's godly magic involved, i can understand why it might not work.

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Well the thing is that Diana IS human. Physically that is. However her strength, speed, durability, etc. are all MAGICAL. It's not biological or physiological in nature. It's magical spell that permerates through her body.

The thing with Animal Man is that he requires BIOLOGICAL absorption/copying of an animal. If Animal Man attempts this with WW, he'll get nothing but human "powers". Not her gifts from the gods, which by the way will work for her and only for her.


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Has darkseid ever touched earths ground , Because if he has then wonder-women is toast.


Yes, but he's most definitely an alien, hence not native to earth, hence we have no idea what would happen if AM tried to use his powers.

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Well the thing is that Diana IS human. Physically that is. However her strength, speed, durability, etc. are all MAGICAL. It's not biological or physiological in nature. It's magical spell that permerates through her body.

The thing with Animal Man is that he requires BIOLOGICAL absorption/copying of an animal. If Animal Man attempts this with WW, he'll get nothing but human "powers". Not her gifts from the gods, which by the way will work for her and only for her.


I understand where you're coming from. How do you think Diana would fare vs. blasts "from the Red" ?

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