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did he survive?
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some would argue that....
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Darth_Hexus
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some would argue that....

some would argue that mace isn't dead, this is for you to decide, and debate of course


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ESB -1138
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Umm Mace is dead. He got his arm chopped off, was hit by Palpatine's Force Lighting from a few inches away, it was powerful enough to throw him thirty feet out the window, and he fell all the way down to the slums.

Mace = dead


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Darth_Hexus
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true, but yoda reacted to every death but mace's doesn't that seem wierd since mace and yoda worked together for so long that yoda may have developed a force bond with mace?


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Mace is deader than disco. As is Count Dooku sadly. . .


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
true, but yoda reacted to every death but mace's doesn't that seem wierd since mace and yoda worked together for so long that yoda may have developed a force bond with mace?
He DID.It was before Palpatine declared every single Jedi to be an enemy of the Republic.


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I'm pretty sure the ROTS script says Mace is dead. So hes dead. People who think he is alive are just ridiculously sad, wishful thinking Mace fanboys.


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Originally posted by Pyro Tyrannus
Mace is deader than disco. As is Count Dooku sadly. . .


I agree. Yes, it was a very sad time... sad


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mace is dead. the book says it, the movie all but shows his lifeless corpse hitting the ground. even then im sure there would be some fanboys saying he was just unconcious and could have woken up later. the official site says hes dead too.

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He got his arm cut off, suffered intense electrocution, and was shoved out a window to plunge half a kilometer to the streets below.

He'd be a pretty damn tough Jedi to survive that.

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Jam-Jul_Lison
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He is dead. The only people that argue that fact is certain stupid Mace Fanboys and Mickey Suttle aka supershadow. To be honest pretty much everyone i have ever talked to believes Mace is dead. In order to survive he would have to land on a speeder and then manage to hold on to it. Considering how he had just lost his arm, got blasted with loads of force lightning and fell back first down the side of a very large building. Hmm the odds of survival are 0.000000000000000000000000000001%


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Council#13
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Yes, Mace is dead. Let's look at the proof:

1. Star Wars official website says so
2. He was zapped by 10 billion volts of lightning for half a minute
3. He fell out a window and fell 10,000 feet down.
4. Supershadow thinks he's alive (secretly. Even he knows he'll get his butt sued by Lucas if he claims Mace is alive).

Also, Jam-Jul Lison is right. Although I wouldn't say that the chances of survival are 0.000000000000000000000000000001%. I'd say it was more like 1/ 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999999,999,999,999
,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,9
99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.
Or more. no expression Or Less no expression Whichever makes you happy. no expression

Let's just go with the chance sof him being alive are nil no expression


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He's dead but I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to land on some shuttle going by.

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I accept that Mace is dead, but, there are a few things that make me think that he could have survived:

    Yoda made no reaction to Mace going out the window. He did however, react to Anakin taking on the mantle of Darth Vader, and the deaths of other Jedi.


    An instant before Mace goes out the window, there is a grunt of exertion. The commentary explains that Sam pushed himself out on the wires, he was not ratcheted out (which is the more normal technique for someone being shot or pushed) so that could mean that Mace used the Force to fling himself out of the window and risk the fall rather than stand there getting fried by Palpatine's Force Lightning.


    The loss of his hand was hardly a fatal (although definitely serious) wound.


    In Clone Wars, Mace was shown surviving several high falls. In Fifth Element, Leeloo's dive is stopped by Korben's cab. Coruscant has a similar amount of air traffic to Earth (in the movie) so it'd be quite possible for Mace to have hit something on the way down, even if he was unconscious.


    Force Lightning never made anyone hit by it black out. (In Aotc, Anakin was winded and in pain, but not unconscious. In RotJ Luke was in pain but not unconscious. In RotS, Yoda was knocked out because he was blasted head first into the wall, before falling unconscious, so it's clear that he was knocked out by the blow to his head not the Force Lightning.) It stands to reason, that Mace was not unconscious when he went out the window (as he did so of his own action) although he might have blacked out from the shock of having his hand severed (which pretty much took the fight out of both Anakin and Luke when they had limbs severed. Infact, Dooku was the only person who lost limbs who didn't look as if they were about to pass out, he looked more surprized that it had happened than anything else)


As I said, I accept that Mace is supposed to be dead, but, there is also evidence (and precedents) to show that he either did (or could have) survived, incase they choose to use him in the TV series.


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So Agen, Kit, and Seasee lived too. Yoda didn't react to their "deaths." They all crawled away!!! Yay!!!



No. Mace was dead before he hit the ground. By the way, if he hit a speeder on his way down, that would be worse. There were none in the immediate area and he would have already reached terminal velocity and then being hit by a speeder going hundreds of miles/hour. Yeah, dead.


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Darth_Hexus
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ubertronics...


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by jollyjim311
So Agen, Kit, and Seasee lived too. Yoda didn't react to their "deaths." They all crawled away!!! Yay!!!

It's possible. Certainly possible Kit survived, he wasn't slashed deeply, where the others were.

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No. Mace was dead before he hit the ground.

From what? I've already pointed out that he had survived similar distances, and that he was conscious when he went out the window.

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By the way, if he hit a speeder on his way down, that would be worse. There were none in the immediate area and he would have already reached terminal velocity and then being hit by a speeder going hundreds of miles/hour. Yeah, dead.

Based on what? Was Anakin killed when he hit Zam's speeder? Was Leeloo killed when she hit Korben's cab? Was Obi-Wan killed when he fell off the cliff into the lake?


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Darth_Hexus
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no, you make good points vious.


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Duh. It's obvious. Mace landed in a speeder with several hot women and in his pimping anger, unleashed wild thrusts of "Vaapad mastery". 9 months later, the lovable gambler/business man Lando Calrissian is born!

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Darth_Hexus
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thank you Razle i was hoping he got into a car of ugly women, come on don't you know star wars, the only ugly women that are there die.


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