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muslimscholar
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Christianity?

i am confused if Jesus came to die for sins of Christians then doesn't that mean Christians can do what they want and get away with it coz Jesus died for them?

Dec 16th, 2006 05:28 PM

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debbiejo
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The thing is anybody that believes in Jesus can be saved. But anyone of any religion is now called a Christian, and yep, you can go on sinning and sinning and sinning and just say the magic words "Forgive me."..Then go on sinning and sinning again...........

Just like that,..........see how easy it is........... confused

Dec 16th, 2006 05:33 PM

muslimscholar
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but jesus died so people wont have to ask for forgivness and i thought he was god?

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Dec 16th, 2006 05:35 PM

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but jesus died so people wont have to ask for forgivness and i thought he was god?

And this is where the trouble starts Muslimscholar.....Christians will often use the "get out free" card, and commit all the wrongs they wish....

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Dec 16th, 2006 05:54 PM

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muslimscholar
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anyone got any answers

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Dec 16th, 2006 07:00 PM

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There are some Christians that would commit sin and do it over and over again while using the I am sorry and accept Jesus in their hearts but without them truly repenting their sins its just empty words and only God can be the judge of that.

The End

Dec 16th, 2006 07:04 PM

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Re: Christianity?

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i am confused if Jesus came to die for sins of Christians then doesn't that mean Christians can do what they want and get away with it coz Jesus died for them?

Depends on which Christian denomination is being examined. Typically repentance is required for forgiveness to be obtained. Then if one sins following repentance then that individual did not truly repent and has not yet obtained forgiveness. But, yes, there are some (not that my denomination or myself agree with them) that hold that the hypothetical you state is true.

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Dec 16th, 2006 07:05 PM

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muslimscholar
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so what sins did jesus die for if u can ask for forgivness and get rid of ur sins?

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Dec 16th, 2006 07:06 PM

Soleran
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so what sins did jesus die for if u can ask for forgivness and get rid of ur sins?

He died for the sins of mankind (he didn't differentiate which ones so it's assumed he died for all of them)

There is a story written about it, you should read it before asking a billion questions about it.

Dec 16th, 2006 07:10 PM

muslimscholar
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He died for the sins of mankind (he didn't differentiate which ones so it's assumed he died for all of them)

There is a story written about it, you should read it before asking a billion questions about it.

yes but if people can ask for forgivness and be forgived

Dec 16th, 2006 07:12 PM

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so what sins did jesus die for if u can ask for forgivness and get rid of ur sins?

All sins can be forgiven following true repentance, but then, can one truly repent of all types of sin?

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Dec 16th, 2006 07:32 PM

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There are some Christians that would commit sin and do it over and over again while using the I am sorry and accept Jesus in their hearts but without them truly repenting their sins its just empty words and only God can be the judge of that.

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what if they do truly repent their sins then go off doing other sins?

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Dec 16th, 2006 07:44 PM

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what if they do truly repent their sins then go off doing other sins?

Yes WHAT IF then, WHAT IF!?

Man WILL make mistakes, I believe the system in place allows and recognizes that sins will be made, crazy huh.

Dec 16th, 2006 08:16 PM

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yes but if people can ask for forgivness and be forgived

Yes. That's how Christianity works.

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Dec 17th, 2006 12:15 AM

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Yet sins are also your thoughts which us being human cannot control. There should be a "Ask only once " clause....

Just like the "Once Saved always saved."

Dec 17th, 2006 03:32 AM

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* there are sins committed accidentally, or because of ignorance, or due to weakness of flesh... these things are considerable...

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that.
All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal."
I John 5:16-17

* Saint John preached that the brethren in the Church should pray for fellow brethren who committed sins which are NOT mortal... one example of a mortal sin which cannot be forgiven is:

"For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
But a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries."
Hebrews 10:26-27

* sins committed deliberately... so the logic that states if we commit sin and ask for forgiveness and we will be forgiven regardless of what kind of sin committed is not in accord with Christ's teachings... wink

Dec 17th, 2006 03:58 AM

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Yet sins are also your thoughts which us being human cannot control. There should be a "Ask only once " clause....

Just like the "Once Saved always saved."

* the "Once Saved Always Saved" doctrine, often used by Baptist churches and Born Again / Charismatic fellowships, is not in accord with the Bible...

"Look to yourselves, that you may not lose what you have worked for, but may win a full reward."
II John 8

* salvation can be lost... wink

Dec 17th, 2006 04:02 AM