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Elite Hunter
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Your thoughts on Darth Sion

I have just played KOTOR 2 recently and this thought popped into my mind. I know that Sion can't die unless he chooses to. My question does this make him all that powerful? Like say if he was in a lightsaber duel and his opponent cut off his limbs then preceded to destroy. What would he do to his opponent then? In any situation similar to that it really doesn't matter if you are still alive since you have no limbs to use in the fight.Also tell me if I'm wrong in my assumption. I would also like to hear your thoughts on his power.

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I think sion is not that powerful. After all, sion himself said he was there when revan killed uthar. And since i don't remember to see any true strong sith around, then this would make sion weaker then revan, malak or even pheraps Uthar...

Besides this kind of healing power contradicts cannon. This way anakin would come out of Mustafar with the same potential as before...

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sions extremely powerful, id put him on vader or dookus level for sure, maybe even higher, based on what weve seen from him

however, as for his ability to prevent himself from dying, its ridiculous to assume that theres not actually a limit to how much he can take, and that the ability is infallible

sure, its pretty nifty, but what exactly is sion going to do if hes cut into a thousand pieces? or if his connection to the force is severed? or if his brain is destroyed?

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sions extremely powerful, id put him on vader or dookus level for sure, maybe even higher, based on what weve seen from him

however, as for his ability to prevent himself from dying, its ridiculous to assume that theres not actually a limit to how much he can take, and that the ability is infallible

sure, its pretty nifty, but what exactly is sion going to do if hes cut into a thousand pieces? or if his connection to the force is severed? or if his brain is destroyed?


I'm curious to know why you rank him on the same level as Dooku or Vader, I do agree with your bottom statement though and I would like to see what happens if he is in that type of situation.

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I'd like to see some proof about Sion being as powerful as Dooku or Vader as well, because in the game the only special thing Sion shows is his inmortality. He did not show any impressive skill with a saber or the Force.


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I'd like to see some proof about Sion being as powerful as Dooku or Vader as well, because in the game the only special thing Sion shows is his inmortality. He did not show any impressive skill with a saber or the Force.


Exactly, someone remind how many times the exile escaped from him? I would also like to know who else he actually faught besides exile and kreia. If you chop his limbs or head he could be nothing but the second coming of Simus! big grin

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I'd like to see some proof about Sion being as powerful as Dooku or Vader as well, because in the game the only special thing Sion shows is his inmortality.


and you think that just any average force user would be capable of such a technique? please, the technique is great testament to his strength, how many people do you know who can just choose not to die when they should be dead, or keep their entire body constantly held together, all through sheer force of will

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He did not show any impressive skill with a saber or the Force.


i wouldnt quite say that, obviously you forgot about how he outmaneuvered traya and sliced off her hand in one attack

clearly his saber skills were immense

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i wouldnt quite say that, obviously you forgot about how he outmaneuvered traya and sliced off her hand in one attack

clearly his saber skills were immense


Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that she was not connected to the force or if she was she was no where near her full strength or she could have use her tk abilities as well as other force powers not to mention she was not wielding a lightsaber. While he was.

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Then you're saying the Exile's skills are immense. And Kreia's seeing as how he accepted her as a Master once she came back to Malachor V, IOU...

And there is still no real proof of his supposed "saber immense skills" or Force powers.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that she was not connected to the force


no, she was, i really dont see where you would have gotten that idea from

clearly you forgot how she was able to put herself into a hibernation trance, or how she would constantly see through the force (her eyes were fvcked, so if she hadnt a connection to the force she wouldnt even have been able to see where the fvck she was goin), or how she could speak to the exile telepathically, or sense danger via precognition, or hide her presence from sion

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or if she was she was no where near her full strength or she could have use her tk abilities as well as other force powers


its true that she wasnt quite at full power, but so what, she was still extremely powerful in that situation anyway, being able to hide herself from sion (whos already been established as a very powerful force user), so the feats still damn good. how many lightsaber wielders do you know that are able to take out extremely powerful force users in saber combat in one move? thats right, didnt think so

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not to mention she was not wielding a lightsaber. While he was.


so what, she was wielding a vibroblade, there really wouldnt have been a difference if she was wielding a lightsaber, he was simply way too quick for her

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Then you're saying the Exile's skills are immense.


since when werent they?

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And Kreia's seeing as how he accepted her as a Master once she came back to Malachor V, IOU...


that was completely due to their mother son relationship, nothing more to it, the fact that you would interpret such a thing as having anything to do with saber skill says a lot

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And there is still no real proof of his supposed "saber immense skills" or Force powers.


riverollv, going by the majority of your posts, it seems you like to travel from thread to thread and continue with the same unfounded bs which completely goes against well known facts that have been brought up and its pretty annoying. either up your game, or stop wasting my time. proof has been given, your just choosing to ignore it, like you were doing just now with nihilus

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IOU, he's just mad because your schwartz is bigger.

I think that Sion has a unique ability but his skills are great but not top notch. I thought he was a rather annoying character really.

Darth Nihilis, on the other hand, was a god. (Literally.)


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Originally posted by IOU
[B]no, she was, i really dont see where you would have gotten that idea from

clearly you forgot how she was able to put herself into a hibernation trance, or how she would constantly see through the force (her eyes were fvcked, so if she hadnt a connection to the force she wouldnt even have been able to see where the fvck she was goin), or how she could speak to the exile telepathically, or sense danger via precognition, or hide her presence from sion


I was going off the quote when she said she was casted down and stripped of her power.


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its true that she wasnt quite at full power, but so what, she was still extremely powerful in that situation anyway, being able to hide herself from sion (whos already been established as a very powerful force user), so the feats still damn good. how many lightsaber wielders do you know that are able to take out extremely powerful force users in saber combat in one move? thats right, didnt think so


Who did she defeat in saber combat with one move?(i haven't played through the entire game in a while)

By the vibroblade comment i was saying if she was cut off from the force i would find it hard to believe a woman her age could wield it affectively. Sorry about the 2 edits my comp. was f*cking up.

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she was cast of her power as in she was dethroned as the leader of the sith triumverate

she never had the force stripped from her

and i was talking about sion when i said that, not traya, i thought that was pretty obvious

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i wouldnt quite say that, obviously you forgot about how he outmaneuvered traya and sliced off her hand in one attack

clearly his saber skills were immense



Kreia didn't even move. And what's the big deal with cutting someone's hand? Luke chopped off Vader's hand, but he clearly wasn't that great with a lightsaber.

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she never had the force stripped from her


If you watch the cut scene she tries to use the force to pick up her lightsaber with the force but failed she lost her powers which would would mean she lost her connection to the force. (sort of like the exile butnot in being a wound) then throughout the game she and exile regain their force powers.

I would also like you tell to me the "powerful" he killed in lightsbaer combat. He has shown very little other than his abitlity to stay alive. Which wouldn't help him if he were to face someone in lightsaber combat who is better like Dooku and Vader and if they cut off his hands/arms or others parts of the body then it doesn't matter if he can stay alive because he won't have the means to fight back.

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Kreia didn't even move


watch the cutscene, we dont even see exactly what happens, so dont talk bs, your in no position to say whether she moved or not

what we do know from the cutscene however is that kreia had her vibroblade up and ready in a battle stance, yet sion was simply too quick for her and was able to spin around and slice off her hand in one move

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And what's the big deal with cutting someone's hand? Luke chopped off Vader's hand, but he clearly wasn't that great with a lightsaber.


luke didnt do it in one move now, did he?

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If you watch the cut scene she tries to use the force to pick up her lightsaber with the force but failed!


oh wow, now that cant have possibly been due to the royal ass kicking that sion just dealt her, no it was because she was stripped from the force! roll eyes (sarcastic)

too bad the fact that she was even somewhat able to affect her saber with tk proves your theory wrong

and lets not forget what we were originally arguing about hord, u originally believed that she hadnt a connection to the force at the point in time when sion sliced off her hand, despite her many displays in the events leading up to that point, so even if the force had once been stripped from her (it wasnt), she would have had to have regained it, because she can use it at that point

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oh wow, now that cant have possibly been due to the royal ass kicking that sion just dealt her, no it was because she was stripped from the force! roll eyes (sarcastic)

too bad the fact that she was even somewhat able to affect her saber with tk proves your theory wrong


I view that her last ditch effort to use the force and that try to pick up the lightsaber was to show how she was stripped of her powers and could not wield the force.

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