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Question Ron Paul for president? A Republican or A LiBeRtArIaN?

Have you guys even heard of him, I haven't.

What do you think about the Libertarian Party?



http://www.ronpaul2008.com/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism


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i dont follow politics too much but many consider him to be a "real republican"


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Yes, he is a real republican, though he does keep a strong relationship with the libertarian party open. He's got my vote, no holds barred.

Here's a small summary of his views:

He supports free trade, sharply lower taxes, smaller government, states' rights, national sovereignty, and a non-interventionist foreign policy, advocating a withdrawal from NATO and the United Nations. He voted against the USA PATRIOT Act, the Iraq War Resolution, and the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Paul supports reduced government spending, opposes the debt-based monetary system and seeks the re-introduction of the gold standard. As congressman, he states that he has never voted to raise taxes or to approve an unbalanced budget. He has called for the abolition of the Internal Revenue Service and the federal income tax. Paul is strongly opposed to abortion, and opposes capital punishment, believing both issues should be reserved to the states via the 10th amendment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul


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You guys already know about this, but I had to refresh my mind about it, here's a few sentences about libertarianism.


My apologies for speaking the obvious:

"Libertarians strongly oppose infringement of civil liberties such as restrictions on free expression (e.g., speech, press, or religious practice), prohibitions on voluntary association, or encroachments on persons or property. Libertarians also oppose any laws restricting personal or consensual behavior..."


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He's from the libertarian wing of the GOP.

I like his belief that we should go back to the Constitution, but I don't like how he applies that belief. From what I can tell, he seems to be an über strict constructionist, and I don't like that.


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Anyone have news about this person?


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He is actually popular in online circles. He might surprise you just a little.


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if i had to choose between him and the war profiteering neocon fascist pieces of human garbage which infest the 'republican' side of the candidacy, yeah of course he would have my vote.

with that said, there is already a thread on the republican nomination. thanks again for a useless and redundant thread, soul switcher.


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Withdrawal from the UN?

Oh, bloody brilliant roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Cool Re: Ron Paul for president? A Republican or A LiBeRtArIaN?

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Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you guys even heard of him, I haven't.

What do you think about the Libertarian Party?



http://www.ronpaul2008.com/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism


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Withdrawal from the UN?

Oh, bloody brilliant roll eyes (sarcastic)


Indeed. He has a lot of good things to say. And while he is the best candidate on the Republican side of this election, his views on foreign affairs are almost irresponsible at this point in history.


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I hate liberals.terri mad
He's a republican.


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He's a republican.


And a conservative one at that.

(see, "Terri" doesn't know the principles of her own party. In fact, most republicans don't.)


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The guy has some good points and on others he's just a complete idiot...

I wouldn't want to see him in the white house.


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Withdrawal from the UN?

Oh, bloody brilliant roll eyes (sarcastic)
Not just withdrawal from the UN, he wants to see it disbanded. He also wants to abolish the Department of Education, Department of Energy, FEMA, NATO, the WTO, the CIA, the IRS, etc....and while I don't necessarily think that those are all good organizations, it seems too radical a position to me.


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Has some good points. And some weird ones. All in all probably the best candidate altogether in my opinion though.


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Originally posted by Healing Artisan
i dont follow politics too much but many consider him to be a "real republican"


ok, but what do you think about libertarianism?


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Re: Ron Paul for president? A Republican or A LiBeRtArIaN?

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What do you think about the Libertarian Party?






That we're in a world of shit if it ever comes to power. Libertarians are Republicans on steroids. Libertarians advocate "liberty" for those only with large amounts of money. They want to take power away from government and give that power to giant corporations. What middle class? What America? The global elite are the libertarians.

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Libs believe the government is incompetent, as they have shown over and over again, and that with small regulation, capitalism and competition leads to a better product and service. Which, at least in my experience, is quite true.


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That we're in a world of shit if it ever comes to power. Libertarians are Republicans on steroids. Libertarians advocate "liberty" for those only with large amounts of money. They want to take power away from government and give that power to giant corporations. What middle class? What America? The global elite are the libertarians.


What bullshit.


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