surfer rewrites DD's DNA and makes him into a docile llama.
come on, Surfer's far stronger and more durable than Superman, far faster, has stupendous variety of offensive options, can matter manipulate DD too and most importantly combine it with CA to really deconstruct DD on the sub-atomic, atomic, molecular and cellular levels.
Actually Lex has changed his DNA to make DD weak to Kryptonite.
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He also altered Doomsday's DNA to make him think that the Imperiex drones were Superman.
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Oh and Silver Surfer soloes. H/P can adapt, but not being dying. Silver Surfer can come up with an endless variety of different energy signatures, so while Doomsday may adapt to one, Silver Surfer can simply switch spectrum and annihilate Doomsday.
Surfer's versatility is the key to victory here, not his raw power.
Thinking in Superspeed (In less than a nano-second he analyses the situation and gain self confidence to escape.
Just to measure a nanosecond. A blink, an automatic one, that everybody blinks few times every minutes and we can't realize that we blink because it's so fast. It lasts fifty million nano-seconds.
In a nanosecond, the light covers only 30 centimeters.) http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...ents_001-29.jpg
It was probably about a year ago when I was debating with someone about Surfer fighting Doomsday. I didn't know that much about Doomsday's evolving abilities, and my worthy opponent made the case that Doomsday -- by definition (or original conception) -- is immune to energy attacks. He posted scans from DD's battle with the Radiant (I believe it was), scans showing the Radiant not only being unable to rewrite DD's DNA, but DD reflecting the Radiant's energy right back at him, taking him out.
I was making the case that the Surfer could undermine the very mechanism (whether it be genetic, molecular or quantum-level) which enables DD to evolve in the first place, but since this still involved an application of energy, my opponent insisted this too would fail.
I backed off mainly because, again, I didn't know that much about Doomsday, and I accepted that -- by definition -- this is what DD is about. I don't like this line of thinking, it reinforces in my mind the "plot device" aspect of the Doomsday character. Nonetheless, at the time, I felt I was respecting this Doomsday aspect by conceding that only through BFR could the Surfer win.
However, if Lex Luthor could change DD's DNA...then I am inclined to rethink the outcome of a Surfer vs DD fight, sans BFR (ie, that SS should be able to come up with some form of energy attack able to neutralize Doomsday, or at least first take out his ability to adapt to attacks).
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The Doomsday being immune to energy is a fallacy. What truly happened was if Doomsday was attacked by a type of energy and died from it, he would become immune or highly resistant to that type of energy.
So in the instance of fighting Radiant, Doomsday's body adapted to Radiant's energy signature so that he could fight him. We know for a fact though that he wasn't immune to all energy, as when he got blasted by Imperiex he was reduced to bones. During H/P he was adapting to energy on the fly, but it still affected him at first, for example Superman using a sonic attack.
So even during H/P we know that Doomsday could be affected by energy, as evidenced by when he got blasted by Darkseid's OE he was clearly put down for a bit, and the sonics did in fact hurt him, at first.
Surfer can manipulate and use just about any energy, so Doomsday might adapt to one attack, Surfer can simply switch the type of energy / wavelength that he is using and continue to affect him. Once he sees what Doomsday is doing then he can overcome it, and he has a history of defeating characters by being inventive with ways to use his cosmic energy and convert one energy source to another. So there is a very clear precedent and case for Surfer winning this fight.
It's still canon.
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Last edited by Kutulu on Dec 27th, 2007 at 05:07 PM
This wasn't the full working model of Doomsday. Only his lifeless skeleton that Darkseid retrieved after Imperiex leveled him. Hence his regeneration and evolution factors were not in effect.
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