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Samus v.s. Akuma

Pretty sure it hasn't happened yet.

Base Akuma, non of that lacks-specific-feats-power-up-ness.

Takes place in a karate dojo, which will probably explode pretty quickly. They start several meters apart, however. Samus has her full gravity/fusion suit load out, and a full-up-graded beam and missile set, power bombs are in, as is space jump and sounds-like-it'd-hurt-less-than-it-does Screw attack.

Besides not being able to go Shin or Oni Akuma has no other limitations.


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Been a while. I'll just add a little comment. While Akuma would seem to have a pretty big melee advantage here due to physical strength/ki-usage, I don't think he has the durability to weather a power bomb.

Samus's physical limits are pretty clearly defined in Prime 3. There are certain objects (bomb components and such) that are flat out stated by her scan visor to be beyond her lifting/moving ability. We can math these items if relevant. To my eye, however, it looks like Akuma has the superior physical strength feats (or ki assisted feats, if you want to argue it).

Those are my initial thoughts.


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As for this, I'm not too familiar with Akuma but I'm not going to say Samus is physically stronger. I'd guess she can lift a few tons, maybe 5 or a little more depending on whether or not you're using the Zebes calc that multiplies everything by 850. I'm not, for the record.

What are Akuma's feats?


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Zebes calc is legit!

Heck she manages to confront Ridley physically at times and he tears open spaceships with his hands.

Akuma is definitely stronger physically if some of his high end feats prove to be feasible. Samus' weapons and durability are ridiculous though. With the Varia suit alone her suit managed to shrug off a mountain busting blast without even cosmetic damage. Include the Gravity and Omega Fusion suit and... it gets crazy.


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Akuma, at base and when he was younger, less powerful, destroyed an island by punching it.

I'll post more feats when I have time, but that is the most well-known.


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are flat out stated by her scan visor to be beyond her lifting/moving ability. We can math these items if relevant.


Oh really? this is new and interesting, like what exactly?


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Oh really? this is new and interesting, like what exactly?
Off the top of my head, when you scan the first bomb component, your visor tells you that you will need your ship to lift it. For another, there is a section where a gate blocks a passage way. A battering ram stands in front of it (large, but not overwhelmingly massive). When scanned, your visor tells you that you will be unable to move it (there's a nearby golem that will do it for you!).

If more specifics are required, I will locate the exact location and visor quotes via walk throughs.


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I'll admit, I aint played a Metroid game since the very 1st one. So with that being said, my knowledge on Samus is "limited".

Reg Akuma's durability was brought up, though, so I can address that. Due to Reg Akuma's feats being preformed with his own body and natural energies, Reg Akuma at the very least, can tank his own attacks. Just under 20 years before the current version of Reg Akuma, he reduced an island to shards, an island loaded with mountains and volcanoes.

To put into proper perspective how long ago this occurred and how weak Reg Akuma was compared to how powerful he is now, many characters who are peons to him now, where indeed worthy rivals, back then.


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Don't forget that normal Akuma was comfortable fighting Gouken inside a volcano, in the intro of SF4.


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And that was in Vanilla, WaaaAAAYYYyyy before SFIII.


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wait... SF4... is a prequel... lol that's what I get for only playing the vs mode...


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lol Yes, IV is a prequel. And the story is so trash, even playin the ARC mode would not tell you it's a prequel.


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The only characters I play are Juri, C.Viper, and Ibuki... so that's probably why I haven't seen much of the story... either that or capcom just sucks at stories in their fighting games.


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Don't worry, it doesn't matter who you use, the game never makes an effort to tie the plots together, in the least. I actually like the stories of the old games. And titles like Rival Schools and Techromancer do the whole story element perfectly. To show you how bad it is now, in IV, Dudley is lookin for his Jaguar, Capcom doesn't even try to elude to the fact that SFIII's End Boss is in possession of it. It was the least they could have done to reference III's plot.


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Originally posted by Burning thought
Oh really? this is new and interesting, like what exactly?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC4YZkIxMTE#t=8m25s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5LWu8abTQ#t=8m50s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=087G64y4Bvs#t=7m15s


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Thanks, Scenario! The other example, which is quite specific, is located here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...TWc6lWGQ#t=407s

Unfortunately, the uploader didn't scan the ram, but if he/she had, the visor would have informed Samus that she would be unable to move the ram alone.


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Akuma is physically superior (obviously) and has greater hand-to-hand skill than Samus. HOWEVER, Samus DOES not, and most likely WILL not, confront Akuma in CQC after getting preliminary readings on him (via scan) advising against it. The ability to read enemies also makes her the more tactical, analytical combatant. She will most likely attempt to outmaneuver him and wear him down with her varied arsenal. Also, Akuma would probably have trouble getting through every layer of shielding. I could be wrong though. I'm admittedly not fully aware of what Akuma is capable of, but Ryu (who to my understanding is not in the same league as Samus) has proven capable of beating him. My faith lies with Samus on this one.

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Akuma punches Samus and all her armor comes off. He doesn't kill her because of dat zero suit. She becomes his slave.


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Akuma punches Samus and all her armor comes off. He doesn't kill her because of dat zero suit. She becomes his slave.


Like I said, we have to take into consideration Samus's shield layers, which I believe would take him more time than he's allowed. That's assuming Akuma can score that many hits on her.

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