complexbrother
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Batman and Nightwing vs Ultimate Captian America
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Jun 30th, 2006 02:08 AM
Grimm22
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Ult. Cap >> Batman
Ult. Cap >>>> Nightwing
Ult. Cap < Batman and Nightwing
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:36 AM
King KAM
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Ult Cap would lose to 616
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:38 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King KAM
Ult Cap would lose to 616
Eh, I disagree
Ult. Cap is stronger and faster than 616 Cap
All 616 Cap has on him is expereince
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Jun 30th, 2006 04:20 AM
King KAM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grimm22
Eh, I disagree
Ult. Cap is stronger and faster than 616 Cap
All 616 Cap has on him is expereince hes not faster nor stronger, and definatley cant fight as well.
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Jun 30th, 2006 04:46 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King KAM
hes not faster nor stronger, and definatley cant fight as well.
He is actually, KK. Ult. Cap is physically superior to 616 Cap. The better fighter category is debatable, since I have yet to see enough proof of his fighting ability in the Ultimate universe.
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Jun 30th, 2006 12:46 PM
H. S. 6
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King KAM
hes not faster nor stronger, and definatley cant fight as well.
That's incorrect.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Metalmanx
He is actually, KK. Ult. Cap is physically superior to 616 Cap. The better fighter category is debatable, since I have yet to see enough proof of his fighting ability in the Ultimate universe.
Yup.
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:31 PM
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Actually...I don't think that Ultimate Cap is any stronger. None of his feats indicate that. As for speed...616's speed feats absolutely trump Ultimate's. Hell, after Civil War #1, I think Ultimate one has even lost his badassery edge.
As for this, I think the tag team of Batman and Nightwing are able to take at least 6/10.
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:35 PM
golem370
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Ultimate Captain America
Rogers is also a highly skilled hand-to-hand combatant. In addition, his strength and recuperative abilities exceed peak human levels (he was shown curling 540 lb
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:38 PM
Metalmanx
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually...I don't think that Ultimate Cap is any stronger. None of his feats indicate that. As for speed...616's speed feats absolutely trump Ultimate's. Hell, after Civil War #1, I think Ultimate one has even lost his badassery edge.
As for this, I think the tag team of Batman and Nightwing are able to take at least 6/10.
He is stronger. Around the 2+ ton range actually. That, and he's a bit more...ruthless than 616.
Anyway, I do agree with your judgement there. Batman and Nightwing win at least 6/10.
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:50 PM
DarkCrawler
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Marvel Cap has lifted 2200 pounds once (plus hurt many other superhumans). Handbooks generally tend to understate Cap.
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Jun 30th, 2006 03:55 PM
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Ult Cap is WAY more durable . He jumped out of a plane five miles in the air without a parachute.
Skill wise I'm going with 616 , although you have to take into consideration that Ult Cap overpowered Hulk via pure skill.
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Jun 30th, 2006 04:40 PM
King KAM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
Ult Cap is WAY more durable . He jumped out of a plane five miles in the air without a parachute.
Skill wise I'm going with 616 , although you have to take into consideration that Ult Cap overpowered Hulk via pure skill.
dude,who is the cap expert? I am, so lemme do my thang,
FIRST Ult Cap has never fallen from 53,000 feet(roughly 10 miles) in the air, 2, 616 cap has leaped from airplanes constantly, and stuck the landing.
and as for the Strength, Like Dark Crawler said people just THINK he is stronger, because he caught that tree and shit, but in reality 616 cap has strength feats that put him in the 2+ ton range too, you only THINK ult cap is stronger because of Nick Fury saying he can bench a toyota. 616 Cap has bent airplane wings,thrown a shield through a truck,and ran through Reactor cores that LAZERS would take minutes to break through.
616 Cap is as strong or stronger than Ult.Cap.
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Jul 1st, 2006 05:09 AM
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Cap wins simply for the gayness that exudes from Dick in the picture above..........And this from a Nightwing fan.
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Jul 1st, 2006 05:28 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually...I don't think that Ultimate Cap is any stronger. None of his feats indicate that. As for speed...616's speed feats absolutely trump Ultimate's. Hell, after Civil War #1, I think Ultimate one has even lost his badassery edge.
As for this, I think the tag team of Batman and Nightwing are able to take at least 6/10.
Also, I think Ult Cap beat Ult Spider-man in an armwrestling contest too. Ultimate Cap IS stronger than 616 Cap.
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Jul 1st, 2006 05:31 AM
batdude123
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Bats and Nightwing take the definite majority.
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Jul 1st, 2006 05:32 AM
King KAM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Also, I think Ult Cap beat Ult Spider-man in an armwrestling contest too. Ultimate Cap IS stronger than 616 Cap. how??? 616 cap can lift around 5tons, to his bio. Ult Spidey cant lift as much as his 616.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Bats and Nightwing take the definite majority.
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batdude123
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King KAM
how??? 616 cap can lift around 5tons, to his bio. Ult Spidey cant lift as much as his 616.
Yeah, and 616 Cap doesn't have any feats that would put him at the level 5 class. The Marvel bio where it states Cap at 5 tons is BULLSHIT.
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