As per my own rule about following film canon, my thread about Batman (from The Dark Knight) versus Boba Fett (from Empire) was rather droll due to the fact that Boba didn't do much of anything on screen. Much of Boba's notoriety came from novelizations of the EU. I feel that this can be a thriving thread, or, ultimately, can be a disaster.
Take the same scenario:
Batman has home field advantage. The fight is in Gotham City.
Jango Fett (from Ep. II) has all of his gear and weapons that were present during the fight against Obi Wan. Slave I is not present during this fight.
Batman (from The Dark Knight) has all of his weapons and the Batpod.
Can the Caped Crusader hold his own against Jango Fett?
And before any of you say "D00d, Jango would pwn Batman for teh sure.", just look at what Obi Wan does during the fight, and he doesn't even have near the fighting skills of Bats. (Although, I will admit, he does have the power of The Force at his disposal.)
Batman is adept at avoiding gun fire in the films, so Jango's laser pistol shouldn't be too difficult, considering the laser fire in the SW universe travels ridiculously slow.
The Batpod with it's speed, what looks like .50 caliber twin guns and rocket launchers should make quick work of Jango
In a H2H fight, Jango didn't do anything of the sort in the films, so this clearly goes to Batman, if it came to that.
If Jango goes airborne, Batman's home field advantage of Gotham and being able to use buildings to duck into and windows to attack/grapple from win's there too.
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None of the people who use guns in the Batman movies are actually good at doing so... they're all wildly inaccurate sub-machine guns, and he spends most of his time dodging in and out of shadows. The darkness won't affect Jango with his visor on, and he's one of the greatest shots in the entire Star Wars mythos. The Attack of the Clones novel states that Mace was barely able to parry Jango's shots when he was shooting with only one pistol, because his aim and speed is so great.
On top of that he's got missiles (a counter to the Batpod), a flame thrower (which means Bruce can never ever get close, he can't dodge a flame thrower), a suit of armor that's partially lightsaber resistant, a jet pack that allows him to scale hundred foot buildings instantly, and a pair of heavy blasters that will go right through Bruce's suit in one blast and the batpod as well.
So Jango has the maneuverability advantage, the weapons advantage, can see in the dark... the only advantage he doesn't have is knowledge of the location, but it hardly matters. None of the tricks batman uses against random joe blows will work against the greatest bounty hunter in the Star Wars mythos (besides Boba).
As for blaster bolts moving slow... they don't. They look like they do because they're large and they're bright, but they're not slow. 50 caliber AA bullets look slow, but that's because they're tracers. Blaster botls are tracers as well.
I understand thay in the novels/literature the Fett's are complete bad-asses, but in the movies, Boba was a clown and Jango was mediocre at best.
Batman also has enhanced vision capabilites, as seen in TDK. So that's a wash. I believe the Batsuit protects against flames.
Dude, the lasers in SW move way slower than gun fire, not sure why and it makes no sense, but that's the way it is. A perfect example would be the garbage shute scene in ep IV, it was bouncing off the walls and moving incredibly slow by comparison.
It's still a novel and we're discussing the movies. If we bring in the written literature of both characters, then Batman would ass-rape both Jango and Boba together.
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But the AotC novel IS the movie.. same feats same exact events same everything... it just states what the characters are thinking at the time that it's happening. I don't quite understand the difference.
If we were to include EU, well, Jango and Boba have done things that Batman has never done and simply can't do without prep time.
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The reason Jango Fett is selected to be the host for the clone army is that he is the best non-Force fighter in the galaxy. He knows how to defeat Jedi, that's why he hangs in a fight with a Jedi master. What other non-Force adept human can hang with a Jedi Master in a fight? Sorry, but this fight easily goes to Jango.
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You have to remember. Batman is no fool. He would most likely research Jango and find out who he is and find out about his many talents and then load his belt up wih all kinds of fun gadgets to fight him. Not to mention he would alter his suit to better withstand the "Laser" ~Imitates Dr. Evil~ Now im not saying Batman could beat Jango, BUT im not saying Jango beats Batman. Its a really close thing and would inevitably end in luck.
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How is Batman going to research a being who doesn't exist in his universe?
And this is without prep time... it's not like Batman knows he's going to be fighting Jango.
With prep Batman could pull a win by using an EMP grenade or something to **** up Jango's visor. But he'd lose at least 8/10 times if they just ran into each other. 10/10 times if they were fighting anywhere outside of Gotham.
See, every time there is a matchup here with Batman, someone says "Batman will research them!!!"
It shouldnt be like that, it should be BAM theres Jango and Batman fights him.
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Well, prep is sometimes allowed for people like Batman because his brain is his by far most powerful weapon. I'm pretty sure he's solo owned the entire JLA with prep. He is one with the PIS force.
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Makes for a more interesting fight if it happens out of the blue.
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That is irrelevant, we go with what we see in the movies, and in the movies, Jango isn't all 'super bad ass'. I understand in the novels he's done justice as the "greatest bounty hunter" should be, so is Boba. In the movies though, they both got short-changed, especially Boba, who was '**** on a bull' personified, just embaressing.
I haven't read them, so I'll take your word for it, but Batman has done things that are rediculous above and beyond his human standing in the comics, novels and graphic novels. I believe he managed to evade Darksied's Omega Beams; no one is supposed to be able.
I digress though, Jango in the movies is just okay and that won't cut it against Batman of the movies.
Yes and no, Batman uses his intellect in real-time too, constantly assessing his enemy and quickly adjusting as needed.
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Yes he is "super badass" in the movies, because he does the exact same things in the movies as he does in the novel. There is literally nothing he does in the novel that he doesn't do in the movie...
Batman hasn't done without prep that Jango and Boba can't top. Jango defeated a small army of jedi knights using only his fists and was hardly injured... Boba owned a planet and a fleet of starcrusiers by himself, etc. Even more ridicoulus things.
Movie jango has the weaponry needed to put Batman down for good.
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