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Kratos & Dante vs Kain

God of War II Kratos & Dante with all abilties(except Doppleganger & Bangle of Time) vs Kain-End of Defiance. Kain CANNOT use Inspire Hate. If the fight needs to be fair, Kain can have his Soul Reaver tooken away(that's up to everyone to decide).


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By end of Defiance do you mean scion or before he absorbs Raziel?

If its typical Defiance Kain then perhaps they have a chance, although he is not likely to have a chance if you take away his sword....


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Yes. End of Defiance. If he's too powerful, then he's allowed before he asorbs Raziel.

That's up for you to decide, if his sword gets tooken away.


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I think he can have a good fight with them if its before he absorbs Raziel, allow him to keep the Soul reaver, but lets just assume Raziel did not allow the wraith blade to get absorbed into him.


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Kain may take this one. He probably could take out Kratos easily, but he will have a little trouble with Dante.


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kratos kills any form of kain including scion
dante kills ny form of kain including scion

whats so hard about this?

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Originally posted by Gumachi
Kain may take this one. He probably could take out Kratos easily, but he will have a little trouble with Dante.


Agreed, Dante has the highest amount of speed and his time powers are a pain in the @ss although Kain can teleport to negate the speed and time powers to a degree. Kratos will be fairly useless imo, his strength and power mean little because he cant catch Kain teleporting and his long range weapons are limited.


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dante can teleport too, with greater ease, over greater distances and instantaneously without mist.

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kratos kills any form of kain including scion
dante kills ny form of kain including scion

whats so hard about this?


Bullshit. He barely could kill the Gods, without help. Now he stands a chance against The DARK GOD, Kain? LOL, Kain rips out his soul. Hell, 1 sip of blood and he has Kratos' power, or he could just TK push him, and The Blade of Olympus will be in his hands. Dante could resist TK with his Devil Powers, but, Kratos is screwed.

He probably does, but with Sparda, Kain will have some trouble(I know he beats BO2 Kain).

Kain can teleport at great distances, also: @3:35-3:36



@0:15 shows he teleported at a great distance.


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Gumachi you're a jackass.

"Dark God Kain?"

Lol.


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Actually, he was a Dark God in SR2.


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Yay for irrelevant titles.

And Kain's TK is enough to restrain weaklings. People hype TK like it is some sort of unbreakable bond. It is a physical force to restrain physical objects, nothing more, and you're an idiot if you think it will restrain someone as physically powerful as Kratos. As for TKing the Blade of Olympus into his hands, I'm sorry, but Kain is not prying the Blade from Kratos' hands, Kain's TK is weak.

Also, your vids did not show Kain teleporting anywhere. no expression

As for ripping out his soul, you act like the Soul Reaver will ever get the chance to take Kratos' soul, Kratos shatters Kain into pieces with the Blade of Olympus.


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He did it Mobieus erm Ares did it to Kratos(I even think Athena/Helios stopped Kratos from hitting the ground in CoO). And I said "TK push. "

Re-look at it.

Heh, all he needs to do is hit him.


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Kain can only soul steal if he hits him with the Reaver, which would never happen.

That said, time slow ftw.


Kain is able to hit Alucard(time-slow), but he can't hit Kratos?


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He did it Mobieus erm Ares did it to Kratos(I even think Athena/Helios stopped Kratos from hitting the ground in CoO). And I said "TK push. "

Re-look at it.

Heh, all he needs to do is hit him.




Kain is able to hit Alucard(time-slow), but he can't hit Kratos?
1. Moebius is a frail old man. And the difference between Ares' TK and Kratos' is gigantic.

2. No, how's about you do an adequate job of pointing out where he teleports?

3. Alucard was not a Time God last I checked.


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Moebius is a frail old man. And the difference between Ares' TK and Kratos' is gigantic.

2. No, how's about you do an adequate job of pointing out where he teleports?

3. Alucard was not a Time God last I checked.


1. Already broken this argument into bits

2. We all know Kain teleports in the hundreds of vids ive shown so how is it relevent...

3. smile

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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Yay for irrelevant titles.


I love it when I toss over your arguments with what you yourself have said, although in the same thread? lawlz

Altho your information is incorrect, Kratos WAS God of War.....thats the only God hes been...





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Yay for irrelevant titles.

And Kain's TK is enough to restrain weaklings. People hype TK like it is some sort of unbreakable bond. It is a physical force to restrain physical objects, nothing more, and you're an idiot if you think it will restrain someone as physically powerful as Kratos. As for TKing the Blade of Olympus into his hands, I'm sorry, but Kain is not prying the Blade from Kratos' hands, Kain's TK is weak.

Also, your vids did not show Kain teleporting anywhere. no expression

As for ripping out his soul, you act like the Soul Reaver will ever get the chance to take Kratos' soul, Kratos shatters Kain into pieces with the Blade of Olympus.


As I said in other threads, Kain doesnt have to TK Kratos' arms, hands, legs or chest, he could just grab him by the head, if you can prove Kratos can put as much strength through his head, neck etc as he has through his arms then you may actually have a point...

Bias crap, Kratos is by far the weakest in this thread and the most useless....


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1. Moebius is a frail old man. And the difference between Ares' TK and Kratos' is gigantic.

2. No, how's about you do an adequate job of pointing out where he teleports?

3. Alucard was not a Time God last I checked.


1. Kratos used TK?

2. Oh, sorry. Wrong video.

@3:36-3:35. The "other" video I posted shows he teleported at a great distance(but that statement was to Leon).

3. Never said he was. As I said; If he can hit Al by slowing time, he can hit Kratos without slowing time.

Can't 'God of War' be a title?


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Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Already broken this argument into bits

2. We all know Kain teleports in the hundreds of vids ive shown so how is it relevent...

3. smile



I love it when I toss over your arguments with what you yourself have said, although in the same thread? lawlz

Altho your information is incorrect, Kratos WAS God of War.....thats the only God hes been...







As I said in other threads, Kain doesnt have to TK Kratos' arms, hands, legs or chest, he could just grab him by the head, if you can prove Kratos can put as much strength through his head, neck etc as he has through his arms then you may actually have a point...

Bias crap, Kratos is by far the weakest in this thread and the most useless....
1. If you think Ares' TK is less than Kain's then you are an idiot. Ares has TKed hundreds of Barbarian warriors into the air, popping their heads and whatnot.

2. Never said he didn't. But those vids did not show that.

3. Are you an idiot? Wanna know the difference? Kratos can actually travel through time, as seen when transporting the Titans to Mount Olympus. He has taken the power of the Sisters of Fate, did you even play the second game? Because for most of the game, that was Kratos' goal.

4. Let me try to explain this to you. Kratos would still have the strength of his legs. Which he can use to run, thus building motion. The TK around Kratos' neck would be broken because Kratos' legs would be able to move him through it. Try grabbing a grown man much stronger than you in his arms and legs by the neck(JUST the neck) and restrain him from moving. It's not going to work. And if you really think that for some reason Kratos' neck would be weaker than the rest of his body, lol.

5. Kratos is by far the strongest in this thread and if he fights Kain while Kain does not have the Reaver...Lol.


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1. Kratos used TK?

2. Oh, sorry. Wrong video.

@3:36-3:35. The "other" video I posted shows he teleported at a great distance(but that statement was to Leon).

3. Never said he was. As I said; If he can hit Al by slowing time, he can hit Kratos without slowing time.

Can't 'God of War' be a title?
1. Obvious typo is obvious.

2. K. Never denied he could teleport.

3. How would he do that, considering Kratos has reacted to and has shown to be more agile than Kain?

It is.


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3. So if anyone could take the control of the mirror, they have the power like the Fates?

3. Your the one who was babbling about him hitting Alucard by slowing down time. You act as if Kratos is faster than the speed of light. Kain zipped fast when he he stabbed Moebius. He wouldn't need to slow down time, he isn't that fast. And all I saying is, he wouldn't need to slow down time to hit Kratos. You said he needed time-slow to hit Al, but he wouldn't need to slow down time to hit Kratos. Kratos reaction is shitty. And if you were thinking for the little bolts Zeus throws, he hasn't done that outside of gameplay.

Kratos is the strongest physically, yeah.


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3. So if anyone could take the control of the mirror, they have the power like the Fates?

3. Your the one who was babbling about him hitting Alucard by slowing down time. You act as if Kratos is faster than the speed of light. Kain zipped fast when he he stabbed Moebius. He wouldn't need to slow down time, he isn't that fast. And all I saying is, he wouldn't need to slow down time to hit Kratos. You said he needed time-slow to hit Al, but he wouldn't need to slow down time to hit Kratos. Kratos reaction is shitty. And if you were thinking for the little bolts Zeus throws, he hasn't done that outside of gameplay.

Kratos is the strongest physically, yeah.
1. Maybe, maybe not, never been tested. Impossible to determine.

2. Because Alucard has no reason to be immune to it.

The Moebius feat? If you think that was some incredible feat of speed, you are full of shit, he moved like five feet. Whoa.

Kratos' reaction is shitty? Is that why he deflected Zeus' lighting at the end of the fight, which was a completely unavoidable occurrence?

Also, have you seen the GoW3 trailer? He clearly shows greater speed and agility than Kain in it.


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