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What does Woverine have to do?

I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?

For example what would it take for you to say he can beat Thor , Can stab Superman etc...

I know we have many non believe and skeptic when it comes to Logan but one has to ask are we going to keep ignoring comics when it comes to this guy?

for example Say Wolverine beats Firelord by stabbing him to death etc would that change anything?


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What will it take to convince you that he can't beat guys like Thor or Superman?


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When the writers dumb down those characters allowing Wolverine to win.....


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I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?

For example what would it take for you to say he can beat Thor , Can stab Superman etc...

I know we have many non believe and skeptic when it comes to Logan but one has to ask are we going to keep ignoring comics when it comes to this guy?

for example Say Wolverine beats Firelord by stabbing him to death etc would that change anything?
Batman gets it worse. He hangs out against the top tiers too, but he gets the 'he doesnt have powers' treatment.


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What will it take to convince you that he can't beat guys like Thor or Superman?


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Batman gets it worse. He hangs out against the top tiers too, but he gets the 'he doesnt have powers' treatment.

Batman doesn't get it worse, at all.

Top tier would be heralds, and Batman only -barely- survives those encounters, he do not "hang" with them.

I also wonder who'd be stupid enough to pull the "he has no powers" argument. Man's got an insane suit. Stops bullets, adds strength and so on.


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I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?

For example what would it take for you to say he can beat Thor , Can stab Superman etc...

I know we have many non believe and skeptic when it comes to Logan but one has to ask are we going to keep ignoring comics when it comes to this guy?

for example Say Wolverine beats Firelord by stabbing him to death etc would that change anything?


well i hate superman and love wolverine but not only could he not win ever against Sups but he would never even get to touch him let alone stab him...not to mention the claws wouldn't puncture superman at all...as for thor i wont lie thor is someone i like alot but completely unbiased opinion here logan could never go against him ever. Sorry


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I'd like it if a little more thought was put into the encounters instead of his opponents just being dumb around him. The Spider-Man vs Firelord thing I thought was fine example. It took him like a whole day to just KO Firelord. Granted, I don't know much about Firelord so it could have been out of character for him to try to be honorable about it and want to melee Spider-Man instead of just burning down the city but I thought it was reasonable. Better than "****, I just forgot what powers I have."


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Well, to be fair Wolverine did stab Thanos.






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Originally posted by kgkg
I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?

For example what would it take for you to say he can beat Thor , Can stab Superman etc...

I know we have many non believe and skeptic when it comes to Logan but one has to ask are we going to keep ignoring comics when it comes to this guy?

for example Say Wolverine beats Firelord by stabbing him to death etc would that change anything?

To really change my opinion, they'd have to keep him at top tier level consistently. If he fights on even terms with Gladiator or Firelord in one issue, he shouldn't get chumped by someone like Sabretooth in the next. To be considered one of the big boys, showings on the low end of the spectrum should be the exception not the rule.


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I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?


He cant and and shouldnt be able too. If he does, its crap writing and fanboys wet dreams.


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When the writers dumb down those characters allowing Wolverine to win.....


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What will it take to convince you that he can't beat guys like Thor or Superman?


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To really change my opinion, they'd have to keep him at top tier level consistently. If he fights on even terms with Gladiator or Firelord in one issue, he shouldn't get chumped by someone like Sabretooth in the next. To be considered one of the big boys, showings on the low end of the spectrum should be the exception not the rule.
But how does loosing to Sabretooth take away anything from his wins or good fight with top tiers since he has done consistently well against them.

Writers seem to give the impression that Wolverine can indeed do some damage in that department. I understand that his power set does not allow or shouldn't allow him to win or do well against top tier but he does and have been doing for years.

So we just go the PIS/CIS route for all this major fights against top tiers?


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I have a question: What does Woverine have to do for you to convince you guys that he can indeed win high against top tiers?

For example what would it take for you to say he can beat Thor , Can stab Superman etc...

I know we have many non believe and skeptic when it comes to Logan but one has to ask are we going to keep ignoring comics when it comes to this guy?

for example Say Wolverine beats Firelord by stabbing him to death etc would that change anything?


What does it take? A clear victory over Cyclops shifty


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I'd like it if a little more thought was put into the encounters instead of his opponents just being dumb around him. The Spider-Man vs Firelord thing I thought was fine example. It took him like a whole day to just KO Firelord. Granted, I don't know much about Firelord so it could have been out of character for him to try to be honorable about it and want to melee Spider-Man instead of just burning down the city but I thought it was reasonable. Better than "****, I just forgot what powers I have."


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In response to the original thread question-Logan would have to undergo some major on panel augmentation, like for instance infusion of the power cosmic. With Logan's classic powerset he should get stomped against top tier opponents, like when Sentry ended thier fight, with 1 punch.

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see I was all for this thread untill I heard, firelord, superman ect.


If we talking against namor, thing, herc, Tiger Shark ect. Hanging with Hulk ect. I see what you mean because consistently does this.

He hardly fights any beings of superman o firelord level.

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With Logan's classic powerset he should get stomped against top tier opponents, like when Sentry ended thier fight, with 1 punch.

for starters his classic power set he was not even a mutant, his gloves were attach to his gloves, he was in his twenties, has spiderman level stats and no healing factor........



Sentry did not end it in one punch. He hit wolverine twice after stating he new he could no kill wolverine implying he was not holding back at all with the shots, wolevrine said he hits like galactus, and wolverine had shaw to his throat moments before the event.

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