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Alien civilization war

Who would win in an all-out a war between these races:

1. Shi'ar
2. Kree
3. Skrulls
4. Thanagarians
5. Kryptonians (from New Krypton)
6. Dominators
7. Manhunters
8. Durlans
9. Daxamites
10. Khunds
11. Rannians


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5 has Superman.....they win.


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Would the kryptoninans be under yellow sunlight? How many of them would there be if they are?

Right now I think either shiar empire or green martians win.

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Idk who the 8,10,11 are but Shiar Empire spans galaxies. And they got some ridiculous tech so for now I go with them.

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You guys really going with a single planet against the entire shiar empire? I understand they have good tech and individually they are strong (no where close to superman) but still.

Im just kinda shocked... 1 planet v.s. Galaxies!!!

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Im just kinda shocked... 1 planet v.s. Galaxies!!!

Well, Inhumans managed to conquer kree Empire without much trouble, and they weren't even a planet.

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Well, Inhumans managed to conquer kree Empire without much trouble, and they weren't even a planet.


That wasn't so much an all out military conquest. Ronan welcomed them and the kree were weakened.

Ill take a planet full of green martians over a planet full supermen though.

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Oh the Manhunters are martians? I thought they were the robots...

Anyway, 100,000 mini Kal-Els running around messing things up led by Zod. That beats anything.

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I dont know, they have the weaknesses to be exploited. And most of these empires have the tech to come up with red star radiation and k-nite WMDs.

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Any star that the kyrptonians can take energy from can easily be destroyed by the shiar. They got a weapon to make stars go champagne supernova... (i just felt like typing that)..

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You guys really going with a single planet against the entire shiar empire? I understand they have good tech and individually they are strong (no where close to superman) but still.

Im just kinda shocked... 1 planet v.s. Galaxies!!!

Does it really matter what size they are. If anything, history showed us that size matters not. Look at Rome, Mongolia, Greek, Macedonia. All small, but conquered big.

Besides, none of those people from Shi'ar Empire are as strong as one Kryptonian.

What would happened if the Kryptonians just attack the head quarters and kill the captains.


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Does it really matter what size they are. If anything, history showed us that size matters not. Look at Rome, Mongolia, Greek, Macedonia. All small, but conquered big.

Besides, none of those people from Shi'ar Empire are as strong as one Kryptonian.

What would happened if the Kryptonians just attack the head quarters and kill the captains.


Because the bigger they got, the more they conquered, as they recruited from the conquered peoples and merged them into their empire. They started small and did not face huge empires similar to them as they went along, at least not until they were big themselves. But no single small nation had a chance in hell of conquering them at the height of their power. The shiar are the same way, a huge ass empire spamming several galaxies and containing thousands of different species.

The Shiar have the imperial guard and millions, probably billions, of superpowered individuals, several entirely superpowered species - remember that the members of the imperial guard are just representative of some of the races in the empire. And their tech, well.. they have battleships that fire black holes to give an idea.

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Because the bigger they got, the more they conquered, as they recruited from the conquered peoples and merged them into their empire. They started small and did not face huge empires similar to them as they went along, at least not until they were big themselves. But no single small nation had a chance in hell of conquering them at the height of their power. The shiar are the same way, a huge ass empire spamming several galaxies and containing thousands of different species.

The Shiar have the imperial guard and millions, probably billions, of superpowered individuals, several entirely superpowered species - remember that the members of the imperial guard are just representative of some of the races in the empire. And their tech, well.. they have battleships that fire black holes to give an idea.

Okay so by your logic the Kryptonians could muscle out the weaker powers involved in this war until they're strong enough to conquer the Shi'ar. Really all they have t do is subjugate the Daxamites and bring them to a yellow sun and from then on its just a matter of time before the other powers fall.


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Does it really matter what size they are. If anything, history showed us that size matters not. Look at Rome, Mongolia, Greek, Macedonia. All small, but conquered big.

Besides, none of those people from Shi'ar Empire are as strong as one Kryptonian.

What would happened if the Kryptonians just attack the head quarters and kill the captains.


Well Shair can just send a nega bomb at New Krypton and wipe everything out in the solar system (at the very least).

They have billions of ships. That have advance technology.

Sorry the Only Kryptonians worth mentioning is superman and Zod. The rest of the race are no where close to his threat level.

If they all attack the Throneworld I think it would still be a heck of a fight to try to get through Shair space if Shair is at a all out way against you. The imperial guards is not a huge threat to Supes and Zod (can't say for the rest of the krytos). But Glads and Zenith plus a massive army behind them should stop them cold.

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You guys really going with a single planet against the entire shiar empire? I understand they have good tech and individually they are strong (no where close to superman) but still.

Im just kinda shocked... 1 planet v.s. Galaxies!!!


Vulcan took the Sh'iar empire pretty handily, the Inhumans conquered the Kree, weakened though they were.




As for the question, it depends how much they know about each other, how much prep time they have. Kryptonians and Daxamites have the best chance (especially the Daxamites, who have far greater numbers I believe) but they also have easily exploitable weaknesses.

Kryptonians seem to have superior technology, and we are about to see just how impressive they are when they gird for war, so we'll see.

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Okay so by your logic the Kryptonians could muscle out the weaker powers involved in this war until they're strong enough to conquer the Shi'ar. Really all they have t do is subjugate the Daxamites and bring them to a yellow sun and from then on its just a matter of time before the other powers fall.


If they have the time to enlarge their power base like that and it works out as planned, then yes, they could match the stronger empires.

But in a totally chaotic conflict between all the factions, the ones that are already stronger are more likely to become even stronger by assimilating tech and resources from the others through conquest.

Didn't the shiar assimilate the strontians?

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Well Shair can just send a nega bomb at New Krypton and wipe everything out in the solar system (at the very least).

They have billions of ships. That have advance technology.

Sorry the Only Kryptonians worth mentioning is superman and Zod. The rest of the race are no where close to his threat level.

If they all attack the Throneworld I think it would still be a heck of a fight to try to get through Shair space if Shair is at a all out way against you. The imperial guards is not a huge threat to Supes and Zod (can't say for the rest of the krytos). But Glads and Zenith plus a massive army behind them should stop them cold.


Zod, Superman, Supergirl, etc are certainly the most dangerous of the group thanks to their experience, but they are hardly the only ones 'worth mentioning'. Even assuming each Kryptonian is only 75% as powerful as Superman, that still makes them more powerful than all but one or two of the Imperial Guard, who are the most powerful beings the Sh'iar have.

As for technology, it remains to be seen just HOW advanced Kryptonian technology is on this occasion, but by all previous examples we have it's at least as advanced as what the Sh'iar have. Tesserect technology, the kryptonian war suit that Lex Luthor created in 'Up, up and Away", the Eradicator armor, devices that could kill Superman himself, planet wide energy fields that can keep away even Black Lanterns, plus the reverse engineered Brainiac technology that allowed them to build a planet out of nothing....

Yeah, I'd say that the Kryptonians have technology, if not numbers, not match the Shi'ar. Remember, at one point they had a vast empire, had conquered large swathes of the universe.

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