Greg Miller, hero to the masses, inspiration to all men and sex symbol to all women, likes Aquaman more than Namor? Say it aint so Greg! Say it aint so!
He is an unapologetic DC fanboy though so it figures. Spidy should have been 1.
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On a purely objective level, Spidey's more popular, just as influential historically both culturally and on the Marvel Universe. Has just as many "hero moments" etc. etc. Wearing an American Flag on your damn costume doesn't buy you anything. I love Cap, but he's where he belongs.
Batman and Superman also are deservedly 1-2. I'd place Cap no higher than 4th, and perhaps lower because he's only relevant to a subset of a single country. Superman and Batman are far more universal, despite Kal borrowing somewhat from "American" ideals as well.
lul. You can take your pick of X-Men who may have deserved it. But he's just another hero on a large ass team. Swap him in for, say, Kitty and no one would object. But in terms of eponymous hero-"ness" he's no more or less deserving, and less so than Cyke, Logan, or Beast, all of whom have their hands in more honey pots around the universe.
I mean he's a bastard, but he's awesome.
And if Dream 'Sentence you to hell for 10,000 years because we broke up' of the Endless is 15 then clearly being a bastard doesn't matter.
If you want to argue that Spiderman is more popular thats fine, but I'm struggling how you're going to argue that Spiderman is just as much as a hero as Cap is. Theres a reason why Spiderman and the superhero community in general look up to him and it's not because he has a flag on his back.
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I was following this off and on, on IGN i didnt agree with the list or felt what the criteria was based on was solid.
I personally didnt get why Superman and Batman were Number one and two respectively.
If they were given those numbers based on them being "1st" superheroes which (IMO they weren't) That's not a good factor to judge a pole. If its how popular they are then that I can understand but should Spiderman come come 1st then?
Or was this about impact on the industry and how they shaped it, in that case should'nt the fantastic four achieve a much higher rating.
To me this list was inconsistent arguing one factor for one hero (say in comic universe base) then arguing another factor for one hero (the effects they've had on the real world). I'll compare the degree of contrast like having a list of celebrities and including critically acclaimed actors, musicians and then socialites.
If Spidey had been a hero as long as Cap he'd be looked up to as well. It doesn't mean he's any less of a hero than Cap, just less well established/renowned.
There's also the JJJ smear campaign...
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I am pretty sure they are both more popular than Spiderman.
I remember some tv show a while ago found that the "S" symbol was either the second or third most recognizable symbol on Earth. I don't remember what the show was though.
100. Okay, I guess
99. Meh
98. Badass
97. Pretty good
96. Meh
95. Meh
94. Sexy
93. Sort of sexy
92. Meh
91. Lame
90. Awesome
89. Meh
88. Hot
87. Pretty good
86. Never heard of her
85. Cool guy
84. He's okay
83. He's okay
82. Don't know this version of the character
81. Awesome and sexy but why did they have to use a pic from ASBAR? That comic sucked ass.
80. He's cool
79. Cool and underrated
78. He's okay
77. He's cool
76. Don't really know much about him
75. Never read it
74. She's okay
73. He's awesome, even though the movie totally shortchanged him
72. He's awesome
71. He's cool and should be respected
70. One of the greatest characters ever
69. Never read it
68. He's awesome
67. Not a major fan of him but you've got to respect the guy
66. She's so hot
65. He's cool
64. He's cool too
63. Meh
62. Never heard of him
61. He's okay
60. Never read it
59. He's awesome and funny
58. He's cool
57. He's funny
56. He's awesome and badass
55. He's pretty good
54. He's awesome
53. He's okay
52. He's cool and unfairly hated
51. He's cool
50. He's classic, iconic, and deserves to be higher rated.
49. One of the greatest heroes of all time
48. Never read it
47. Meh. Cartoon version was hot though.
46. He's cool
45. Never read it
44. He's okay
43. He's pure awesome
42. She's hot
41. One of the greatest heroes ever and one of my favorites
40. He's awesome
39. He's cool
38. One of the greatest heroes ever and one of my favorites
37. Never read it
36. He's cool but IMO too high on the list
35. Never read his comics
34. He's awesome and badass
33. He's also awesome and badass
32. He's pretty good
31. He's hilarious and cool
30. He's okay but too high on the list IMO
29. He's one of the most badass, awesome characters ever
28. He's an awesome, deep, fascinating and cool character
27. He's cool but IMO a bit too high on the list
26. Never heard of him
25. He's okay, but I've never really read his comics
24. Never read it
23. He's cool
22. He's awesome and badass
21. Never read his comics
20. She's okay, but hardly qualifies as a hero IMO, even if she is currently, she is far more iconic as a villain
19. He's cool but he's more of a supporting character than a full-blown hero
18. He's awesome
17. She's cool
16. He's awesome
15. Not exactly a hero, but he's cool
14. Awesome, badass, iconic, he's just all - around great
13. She's hot and a good character and all, but way too high up on the list IMO
12. Great and classic character but I don't think he should be above the likes of Thor and such
11. Classic but a bit too high up on the list IMO
10. Great character but a bit too high up on the list if you ask me
9. Awesome, classic character
8. Okay, Wally is my favorite Flash and one of my favorite superheroes but he is just way too high on the list here
7. Okay, he is awesome and classic
6. One of the greatest heroes of all time, even if he's not one of my personal favorites I still have to give him props
5. She's awesome
4. Lame
3. One of the most popular and well-known heroes so he deserves this spot
2. He is one of the best and most classic superheroes of all time so of course he deserves a high spot.
1. He deserves it
Characters I'm annoyed were not included:
1. Animal Man
2. Lucifer Morningstar (hell, if Dream gets in....)
3. Etrigan
4. Squirrel Girl (of course)
5. Beta Ray Bill
6. Gladiator
7. Captain Mar-Vell
8. Black Adam (if Catwoman gets in...)
9. Magneto (see above)
10. Quasar
11. Kyle Rayner (why rank Wally so high due to his fan popularity but ignore all of the fans Kyle has?)
12. Guy Gardner
13. Crimson Avenger
14. The Phantom
15. Dr. Fate
16. Zatanna
17. Solar
18. Mr. Majestic
19. Anyone from the Authority
20. Jocasta
Not agreeing with the number or character, but with your reason why. This is why I said the basis for this supposed list was unfair, inconsistent and weak in its reasoning
It's because Cap's a natural leader, and Peter's personality type is one that is in awe of such things. I'm sure Spider-Man himself would rank Cap higher, but we have the advantage of being removed from such context. Because, again, is there anything Cap's done on a purely heroic level that Pete hasn't matched at some point?
And as before: Spider-Man means more to more people, simply put. Just like Superman means more to more people.
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