Without PIS to lean on while considering exactly what the Power Gem is meant to do for it's wielder. The Surfer could or would not lose this. Of course this all depends on the Surfers ability to use the gem. If he just gets the gem, and amps all night, Odin would slap him down, but if he knew how to use the gem to it's full potential... Well there would be no stopping him.
Remember guys this isn't Surfer with the PG.
It's Surfer with the PG with 24 hr of amping.
Big difference.
Not only did Thor not amp much from the PG but he only had it for a small moment before fighting Thanos.
Uhm yeah the PG doesn't work that way, if the Surfer did not know how to use it he would be beaten, but if he could use it with the same apttitude that Thanos, or Warlock could, than he would win. The Gem does not need to be revved up in order to go from 0-60, it just makes the knowledgeable wielder as powerful as they need to be.
Surfer is a master energy absorber (like Thanos). He knows more about absorbing energy (subconsciously as well) with the best of them. He has absorbed stars for crying out loud. Not only will he be absorbing the energy consciously well but unconsciously well.
The PG does not work like that though. The Surfers amped or base stats get overwritten the moment that he sticks that gem on himself. If he understands how to use the PG on the level of Thanos or Warlock, everything about him jumps to infinity. His blasts, his durability, and any other ability that he possesses. The reason that comics don't really show how powerful a PG wielder would really become is due to plot, because let's face it, no one would be able to beat the invincible, and infinitely powerful. Of course if the Surfer does not have a firm grip on the PG's usage he would be defeated with ease.
WM Thor arc proves it does work that way. It states that Thor was constantly amping and will eventually be powerful enough to destroy the universe. It even showed him tapping into the PG more and more when he was incased in the force block.
Bottom line, surfer would be astronomically more powerful after 24 hr with the PG than 1hr.
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Ya but the fact the Thor was amping the whole time and in the force block still amping he failed to break out where Odin had no problem, Thor is no stranger to using items simliar to that of the PG If anythign he has more experience then Surfer. ANd Yet PGTHOr was still way below Odin I can't see surfer tapping into the gem like thanos of Warlock could with only 24 hours
The power gem taps into infinite power. It was what made all the other gems have infinite range in the gauntlet....
But barring those instances and Thor you really have guys like drax and champion who when holding onto it just become better bricks...
I could see the argument for a time related amping though. Thanks collected the gems and there was a behind the scenes adjustment to the amping when he collected the gems in thanos quest.
In any case.... To me:
A surfer backed by the power gem is akin to galactus...
And galactus beats Odin.....
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If i am not mistaken the gems can only be used to their full potential when all are united others anyone with the power gem would be almost unstoppable which we know is not the case
Like I said before, plot is what keeps the Power Gem from truly being what it was first written to be. Thanos used Power to blast several planets to dust, and the Celestials that tossed them at him away with ease.
Are the gems really that effective individually? The eternals didn't seem that impressive with the gems, Hood wasn't that uber with the power gem either.
If the PG does provide access to infinite energies, then it seems its rarely written up to that level.
As far as accessing it goes, I can't imagine anyone under Galactus doing a better job with the Power Gem than Surfer. More than characters like Thor and Thanos, Surfer's innate Cosmic Awareness will latch onto the PG and provide him with the understanding to make optimal use of it. Surfer's experience with the Power Cosmic should also inform him of the nature of the Gem too.
IF the PG is that powerful, individually, but requires skilled usage, then Surfer should stomp Odin, because I can't see any reason why Surfer would fail to properly utilise it given the nature of his powers AND the Cosmic Awareness.
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