It says Obama is making a case against schools "suspending too many blacks". What does this even mean? If a student does something worthy of suspension why should race be taken into account?
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That question assumes that teachers are flawless and unbiased automatons, when it fact they are people like anyone else who are influenced by racial stereotypes.
So blacks are being suspended so much due to nothing but racial stereotyping?
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So which extreme do you think the truth lies more towards, or is it smack dab in the middle?
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Well there is an underlying racial bias that means that white students get cut more slack than black students. Since suspension is already within a grey zone that's to some degree subjective to the teacher it makes it hard to compare.
Say 100 white kids do something that can potentially be cause for suspension and 100 black kids. If for 50 of the white kids the teacher decides to give them another chance and not suspend them, but all of the black kids get suspended, then that's still a disadvantage that black kids have, even though all of the suspensions were justified. You get what I mean?
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CFPB is separately amassing a database to monitor ordinary citizens’ credit-card transactions. It hopes to vacuum up some 900 million credit-card accounts — all sorted by race — representing roughly 85% of the US credit-card market. Why? To sniff out “disparities” in interest rates, charge-offs and collections."
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Well if a teacher is more likely to give white people more leniency then other races that is an issue. I think they just need to look more closely when they suspend someone. Sometimes a person might get leniency due not to race, but rather them not having been in trouble before. While the kids who have been repeatedly in trouble tend to not get that as much. But these repeat offenders tend to be of all races.
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That's an unrelated issue though. Regardless of ethnicity, players get preferential treatment in colleges, HOWEVER it depends on a lot of conditions. What sport they're playing, what position they are, and whether the school has a powerful program. At FIU, it's not so bad because we're at the very bottom of Division 1 football, but I still have colleagues who've gotten hounded (never threatened, just bothered a lot and called on/emailed constantly) by the athletics people over important players who were failing their composition classes.
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Do you have any other articles that corroborate this one's claims that don't have an untrustworthy, unjournalistic tone?
Not calling bullshit yet, I'd just like to see this same information presented without obvious spin like "Orwellian," "Big Brother Barack," and "racial bean counters." That's borderline tabloid language.
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College sports is not only a big business for universities it is also a very good PR connection to alumni and locals. So it makes a lot of sense to at the very least give good athletes scholarships (tbh I think they should get paid).
This was a DoE study, not some liberal think-tank or PAC.
I was one of the white people that did not get a sports scholarship when I was 18 or 19. I could have played Division 1 football at the collegiate level on a full scholarship if I was black. Coach's words.
His words were almost verbatim, "If you were black, we'd take on you a full scholarship in a heartbeat." Here's why: it is tough to find a combination of a good athlete and a good student. And there is federal and private funding in place for scholarshipping minority students.
Time Immemorial is not wrong about this.
TL : DR - I'm still butthurt over college bullshit because I'm white and didn't get an athletic scholarship.
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This could be its own thread. It's absolutely absurd how college athletes make millions of dollars for their universities and are often times given such small stipends that they resort to theft and selling their trophies/rings/commemorative shirts.
If they were to end that stupid prohibition, all they'd have to do is take off 10% of the coach's salary and the athletes would make decent money and the coaches would still be rich as phuck.
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On the other hand these players already get special treatment as is, something tells me making them millionaires would just make things worse.
Plus I always thought that was the trade off, at least for those who get scholarships. The school, etc make money off sports, the student gets a free education, experience playing at a higher level, and exposure that would help get them placed on pro teams after college. Not to mention all the benefits that are sort of unspoken rules, like preferential treatment, etc.
This is also why it is wacky though, you can go to some colleges and it seems like the most important thing at these places is..if their sports team will win or lose. It can be depressing for someone who in high school had heard about how awesome and different college is and then they get there and find out..it is just more of the same.
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