When Nihilus was attacking the galaxy, the Emperor didn't seize the opportunity to invade the Republic. He did not attempt to destroy the Triumvirate either. Was he afraid of the trio's power or what?
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Revan was already delaying him at this point IIRC
Also why destroy your enemies when you can let someone else do a lot of the work?
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Nothing suggests that Sith Emperor was afraid of Triumvirate, majority feared him instead. In-fact, Traya was most likely afraid and intimidated by ancients; she assumed that her talents paled in comparison to those of the ancients and it would be best course of action to destroy the Force itself.
Sith Emperor possessed the power to destroy any external threat either through his own power and/or with his personal powerbase and/or with the enormous military might under his disposal. Sith Emperor had too many options.
Why would Vitiate be afraid? He was still building his empire up in secret.
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Because it's been made clear that, had Nihilus not been stopped by the Exile, he would have eventually grown to powerful and would have consumed the entire GFFA.
I seriously doubt that Nihilus would have even made to Dromund Kaas. He along with his followers would have been blown apart in space by military might of reconstituted Sith Empire.
Also, Sith Emperor most likely have an answer for even the most potent power of Nihilus as apparent from his feat in Nathema. Sith Emperor would have hit back in every manner possible if Nihilus had threatened his Empire.
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1. Sith Emperor is an absolute master of both Force Sever and Force Drain talents himself.
2. Sith Emperor orchestrated the most deadly ritual of dark side power known in history which exterminated all life barring him, he certainly have an answer for Nihilus's giga-drain or whatever due to this development alone.
3. Sith Emperor isn't a human or mortal, he transformed in to an immortal being (an entity like condition) which most likely boosted his defenses to seemingly impossible levels. Sith Emperor have too enormous reservoir of power to overcome with Drain factor alone, I have yet to see a single Force power which works on Sith Emperor.
Underestimating Sith Emperor is the greatest error that fans are known to commit.
Though their is wisdom in a saying of Vader: "There is little that a lightsaber cannot solve." Rock solid....
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Apr 1st, 2014 at 07:55 PM
1. So is Nihilus...just better at the drain part.
2. Ritual=Prep with like 6,000 Sith Lords. Quite frankly, I don't find that impressive at all.
3. Revan's TK worked on Vitiate. (insert lol here) Imagine the TK on one who lifted star ships?
He's literally an attempt to make a less OP Nihilus, but failed and instead made a horrible character. Mortis, Sidious, Luke, Nihilus, Caedus, Plagueis, Yoda, etc would all defeat Vitiate.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Apr 1st, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Sith Emperor could drain his targets from lightyear distances and simultaneously siphoned energies from many individuals.
I know that Nihilus became a natural with Force Drain talent due to his blackhole like condition but their is no reason to believe that his feat cannot be replicated with adequate preparation from someone like Sith Emperor or him to be exact.
People often confuse aspects of this ritual; you are referring to the "preparation aspect" of the ritual. Participation of thousands of individuals ensured that ritual would lead to emission of mind-boggling proportions of dark side power. Difference was that once the ritual began, Sith Emperor began to take charge and not just gained control of 8000 other Sith Lords (to prevent disruptions) but controlled the outcome (the most important and dangerous aspect of the ritual); the dark side power which was unleashed from the ritual, not just wiped out all living beings in its coverage but killed an entire planet where it was performed and also resulted in largest nexus of the dark side the galaxy "would ever see." Sith Emperor walked out from this kind of display of power unscathed and more powerful then ever before.
Now tell me if this isn't impressive then what is?
It wasn't a TK, it was an incredible burst of power released by Revan after achieving almost oneness like condition. While Vitiate took it all on, he stood back up unscathed.
Proper TK attacks from Revan didn't even budge Vitiate from his position but were potent enough to shatter concrete.
Correction: Sith Emperor represents a Nihilus who would be perfect.
Also, I really doubt that the list you mentioned have been tested in ways like Sith Emperor have been and/or would live to tell the tale if walk in his shoes.
Emperor's powers would do the job. Greater the power, more effective the attacks are.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Apr 1st, 2014 at 08:19 PM
Sith Emperor demonstrated the capability to drain Revan in Maelstrom Prison while being stationed on Dromund Kaas, distance between these two places is 12 parsecs.
Do the math.
Sith Emperor was a mortal back then, he had his limits at that time. Still the Emperor succeeded in a mission at which 8000 other Sith Lords failed even with combined effort.
Difference between Emperor's and Nihilus's position is that Nihilus performed his feat of planetary-scale devastation from safe distance (Nihilus didn't had to face the music himself) while the Emperor was within the heart of storm of destructive dark side power and still lived to carry on his agenda.
Emperor have much superior understanding of the Force then Nihilus, like this or not. Also, it is hinted in canonical sources that Emperor became more powerful after the event of Nathema, his capacity as practitioner of the Force vastly increased after his transformation (Emperor might pull off Katarr or Nathema by himself during his immortal condition).
It sounds like a TK push but it isn't, it is/was actually an immensely potent raw emission of energy.
Nihilus's attacks are less likely to work on someone stronger then him.
Nihilus was more powerful then any individual stationed on Katarr as an example. It was unlikely for anybody in this world to outright tank his powers or have the command of Sith Sorcery to undermine his powers. Alternative defensive option was being a wound.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Apr 1st, 2014 at 08:42 PM
The circumstances in this situation hardly make the feet eligible. Especially due to the fact he has never demonstrated wide spread drain besides this, despite it being in his best interest (situation with Revan when he was dueling Guards; situation in Tython battles, etc etc).
So? The entire ritual was designed so Vitiate would be draining everything. It makes perfect sense nothing happened to him. The devastation was merely an absence of the Force and the death of all life, which was drained by Vitiate. It's not as HE was being drained.
I truly admire Vitiate fans, they work hard to try to make his feats impressive, sadly, it hardly works:
Devastation on Nathema: Aided by 6,000 Sith Lords
Mind dominating Revan/Malak: Had prep + nexus
Destroying Dark Council: Had prep + nexus
...you see the pattern, don't you?
And, when you see Vitiate without prep, he get's beat down by the Hero.
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Emperor have been siphoning energy from many individuals stationed on Dromund Kaas in addition to doing the same with Revan from far away. Heck, Emperor continuously siphoned energies from his Hand(s) (in particular) even when these individuals would be spread out in various parts of the galaxy for tasks assigned to them by him.
Emperor is an absolute master of Force Drain talents.
Finally an improvement in your understanding but you still are not getting the full picture:
This ritual wasn't friendly to Emperor in any stretch of imagination, it represented an ultimate test for his command of the dark side as well. Emperor would either manage to control the outcome of the ritual or perish just like all others who participated in it.
Think of this matter as of Thought Bomb being unleashed by brotherhood. No one in the brotherhood survived the outcome of the ritual or managed to control its outcome once the lethal dark side power was released from it.
Emperor's feats are very impressive, they are not properly understood by some. Also, some do not focus on the proper context of Emperor's respective position in comparison to his surroundings, successes and failures.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Apr 1st, 2014 at 09:07 PM
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I think it's possible that Vitiate may be immune to force drain as a result of the effects of the Nathema ritual.
I'll post my speculation thread for that.
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