Not with all of them. Speed steal ftw, Wally slaps the shit out of him.
Now to wait for the "he doesn't usually speed steal right away" crowd.
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The link below shows why the tactic you selected for Bobby wouldn't work against some of the faster Flashes. The faster Flashes like Wally and Barry are simply too fast, and that is even ignoring some of their feats like 'faster than instantaneous transmission from across the galaxy' stuff.
Anywhere, here is a link where he saves an entire city by transporting over 500,000 people, carrying them in twos and threes, to a safe location 35 miles away (meaning each trip he goes out 35 miles and goes back 35 miles to the city, searches for people, grabs 2 or 3, and then runs 35 miles away and returns to do the same over and over until 500,000 people are evacuated). Oh, and he does this within 0.00001 microseconds. While a nuclear weapon is exploding.
Full potential Ice Man is simply nowhere near the better Flashes. The Speed Force is a greater deus ex machina than anything Ice Man could ever HOPE to bring to the equation.
Here's the link for those who don't read DC, and having a Flash like Wally or Barry vs Ice Man probably indicates lack of reading DC. It would be like me asking if a full potential Nightwing could take down, say, Loki. Or maybe even if Alfred, that's Bruce Wayne's butler for those who only read Marvel, can use a walking cane to cripple the Hulk.
Maybe not impossible, but so improbable as to be patently ludicrous, and only possible in the realm of PIS of the highest magnitude.
Two points - he would not have time to turn into a gas, and even if he started in gaseous form the effects of a mass passing through the gas multiple times at c speed would absolutely destroy it.
Now, if I wanted to give a longer answer I would tell you that what we call 'cold' is basically the slowing down of molecules (in the same way heat is the speeding up of molecules), and that Flash has literally slowed down the entire earth when it was being moved, and thus his control over the slowing down of molecules via the speed force is not only as developed as that of Bobby, but can actually cover a far wider scale (planet wide) with the only difference being that Wally's is through the Speed Force and manifests as a total freeze of movement, while Bobby's is through his abilities over cold and manifests as a total freeze (and zero kelvin, the lowest temperature possible, is scientifically the total stopping of movement - exactly what Flash can do).
But I will not get into that.
Suffice it to say that the gulf between Iceman and a Flash like Wally or Barry is absolute, which is why I was comparing it to me asking if Nightwing can beat Loki.
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lol that is very true....
thing with 'full potential bobby' is that he doesn't strictly exist in one place at a time. if we assume full potential iceman is the same iceman that had that piece of apocalypse inside him, then flash could destroy his body, steal his speed, do whatever he wanted to him and....it wouldn't matter. his consciousness existed across the world, in all form of moisture.
he would simply reform from moisture in the air or, more deadly, from the moisture in flash's body who would assume bobby was destroyed. he was stabbed through the heart from behind in his human form and it was meaningless:
really, he can do pretty well anything he wants in this form. he would exist outside any area flash stole the speed from and destroying his body wouldn't matter. far be it from me to argue against a forum flash in 99% of cases, but even flash can't destroy all the moisture in the world, especially when he himself is composed of it. it takes a forum character to battle a forum character.....
Great points. But I think flash would only have to deal with Bobby operating inside battle distance. Bobby can't exist and operate outside battle distance per the rules. I doubt that full potential Bobby exists inside every living thing (that has moisture) in all universes.
Also without moisture Bobby cannot exist or operate. Moisture can be destroyed by transmutation.
Or maybe......not everyone is into forum flash till the point that it is pointless to create a thread that has him and also as ridiculously op and powerful forum flash is, it's not like this is a skyfather versus meta thread. At the end of the say Bobby is an omega level mutant with near unlimited ''power''. So yeah it just that Flash has powers that turn any type of battle into his favor
But how about this then. Iceman get a 5 to 10 seconds head start in this battle. That's more than enough time for Bobby to suck the moisture out of any Flashes, if he decides to go that route
edit: Oh and you don't have to be so arrogantly all knowing on us and say what is Marvel and what is DC relax pal.
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On second thought, even though it was just a joke. How about i really change the stips that Bobby has a good 5 to 10 seconds to do whatever he wants before Flash. Of course they start from a good distance away and Flash is not gonna stand there and let himself get attacked. Hell, i can take away speed steal.
Edit: These stips are for Wally and Barry only.
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I think the argument here is that The Flash can defeat Bobby before or even during him thinking about any type of offense to use on The Flash. Honestly, what is the speed of thought? isn't it unquantifiable?
I looked up everywhere for something like this! But is it truly accurate though? I refuse to believe hours of searching was wasted when the answer could be found just like that
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