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riv6672
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If Batman is 100

Classic, peak (and nu52 where applicable) versions of all.
In strength, what are the following? My rankings attached.

Nightwing 75

Wildcat 100

Crossbones ?

Daredevil 75

Captain America 200

Bane 80-?

Kazar 175

Killer Croc ?

KG Beast ?

Deathstroke 125

Wolverine 200

Blockbuster ?

Midnighter ?

Question marks indicate lack of knowledge on my part, where i dont feel comfortable making a call/a lot of variation in portrayals, where a case can be made for several different strength levels depending on source material.
Any help appreciated as always.

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And cue incessant nitpicking of OP's choices in 3...2...1....

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And cue incessant nitpicking of OP's choices in 3...2...1....

Yeah i figured i'd take the first hit.
If i can get at least a few actual lists in between all the picked nits, i'll be happy. There are some on point folks here after all.
Why this one guy DarkSaint, can usually be counted on to provide some well thought out observations... stick out tongue

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Classic, peak (and nu52 where applicable) versions of all.
In strength, what are the following? My rankings attached.

Nightwing 85

Wildcat 100

Crossbones 100

Daredevil 90

Captain America 130

Bane without venom 100 with full venom 170

Kazar ?

Killer Croc 150

KG Beast ?

Deathstroke 120

Wolverine 130

Blockbuster ?

Midnighter ?

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All I know is Cap would be 300.

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Right on time.

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All I know is Cap would be 300.

Well, Cap can throw his shield and catch a rocket in flight/sheer a tank turret off. I sure dont see Batman doing that, which is why i said 200.

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Well, Cap can throw his shield and catch a rocket in flight/sheer a tank turret off. I sure dont see Batman doing that, which is why i said 200.

He also punched Iron Man hard enough for him to go flying a bit and cause a crater in the ground.

Iron Man was fine of course, but just that he could punch him hard enough to indirectly cause that collateral damage is great.

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Agreed.
BTW, 200 doesnt mean i think Cap is (only) twice as strong as Batman, it means i think he's the strongest guy on this list.

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Agreed.
BTW, 200 doesnt mean i think Cap is (only) twice as strong as Batman, it means i think he's the strongest guy on this list.

How if you gave wolverine 200 as well...
and if batman is 100 and cap is 200, i think it means he is twice as strong as batman by those numbers.

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Re: If Batman is 100

Nightwing 75

Wildcat 100

Crossbones 125

Daredevil 85

Cap America 200-300(500-600 on his really good days)

Bane 90-375

Kazar 175

Killer Croc 175

KG Beast 125

Deathstroke 150

Wolverine 150-175

Blockbuster 1,000-5,000

Midnighter 250-300

I'm not sure about some of these, but I think I got the gist of how the list should look. Oh yeah, nice thread riv.

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I though generally Crossbones was stronger then Cap?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by riv6672
Well, Cap can throw his shield and catch a rocket in flight/sheer a tank turret off. I sure dont see Batman doing that, which is why i said 200.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
He also punched Iron Man hard enough for him to go flying a bit and cause a crater in the ground.

Iron Man was fine of course, but just that he could punch him hard enough to indirectly cause that collateral damage is great.

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Nightwing 75

Wildcat 100

Crossbones 125

Daredevil 85

Cap America 200-300(500-600 on his really good days)

Bane 90-375

Kazar 175

Killer Croc 175

KG Beast 125

Deathstroke 150

Wolverine 150-175

Blockbuster 1,000-5,000

Midnighter 250-300

I'm not sure about some of these, but I think I got the gist of how the list should look. Oh yeah, nice thread riv.

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He also punched Iron Man hard enough for him to go flying a bit and cause a crater in the ground.

Iron Man was fine of course, but just that he could punch him hard enough to indirectly cause that collateral damage is great.

And Batman twoshotted Grundy who was shrugging off attacks from Gotham and Gotham Girl in the same comic.

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Well, Cap can throw his shield and catch a rocket in flight/sheer a tank turret off. I sure dont see Batman doing that, which is why i said 200.

And Batman can kick doors meant to survive nuclear blasts and break them.

If all you have is random strength feats, Batman can match almost any strength feat Cap has.

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And Batman twoshotted Grundy who was shrugging off attacks from Gotham and Gotham Girl in the same comic.
And Batman can kick doors meant to survive nuclear blasts and break them.

If all you have is random strength feats, Batman can match almost any strength feat Cap has.

Batman is pis incarnate. Unlike Bruce, Steve actually have a Deus Ex Machina that can explain about 25% of the shits he accomplishes, where as Bruce has none, except that his Batman.

Sep 19th, 2016 05:38 PM