yeah, just based on the third hand actually. that is tough to contend with. that is such a horrible birth defect though. Kinda funny. he had three hands, and he was banging tenal ka who only had one.
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Given that Palpatine, even circa Dark Empire, is more of a scholar and sorcerer than combatant, I'm willing to be convinced that Caedus is the more conditioned, experienced, and possibly gifted fighter. Though Palpatine is undoubtedly more powerful {i.e. more learned and skilled in the ways of the Force} than Caedus, that might not be decisive.
Conditioning has little to do with fights between high-level Force wielders who can simply supliment themselves with the Force, and Palpatine has fought extremely experienced and gifted fighters before and had it mean naught.
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I wasn't referring to physical conditioning, but rather the possibility that Caedus has likely been conditioned {i.e. trained} to fight to a greater extent than Sidious, who conditioned himself to largely act through intermediaries and pawns.
With the exception of Yoda and Luke, I would argue that none of them are opponents quite like Caedus. Mace Windu was extraordinarily deadly in combat, but Caedus is probably much more powerful in the Force {certainly the evidence indicates superiority for Caedus}; Galen Marek was extraordinarily powerful in the Force, but his combat skills weren't up to par with his raw strength; Windu's Jedi Masters might have been among the most skilled Jedi in the order, but Palpatine's Force connection was seemingly lightyears beyond theirs.
In this case, Sidious would be fighting someone whose strength in the Force is prodigious {perhaps, even, on par with his own}, whose skills in combat are extraordinary {holding his own against battle raged!Luke Skywalker, shaming Kyle Katarn and company in single combat, etc.}, who possesses unique talents/powers/techniques {mastery of the shatterpoint charism (which Sidious should be very leary of), the ability to produce illusions realistic enough to fool Luke, the ability to cut off others from the Force, etc.}, and whose threshold for pain is easily on par with the Emperor's or Vader's own.
Sidious might win, but I don't see him roflstomping Caedus unless he unleashes a certain hyperspace wormhole in Caedus's direction.
Being better in the Force is superior to being better in skill.
Really? Could you give some explanation for this? I personally don't recall Caedus doing anything that impressive with the Force outside of his Super-Saiyan moment.
Really? Because I recall Galens lightsaber skills being termed as 'almost perfect.' And he certainly seemed skilled in the use of the Force in combat. But then again it is rather hard for him to match up to his own power, vast as it is.
(I'd favor Galen in a thread versus Caedus personally)
Indeed.
I find that doubtful. Havn't you argued that DE Sidious is on par with Luke? And yet you're arguing that the man who Luke schooled on a regular basis is a match for him?Am I missing something or do you just enjoy seeing me defend Sidious?
That fight reeked of PIS. He also almost lost against a battle raged Mara.
His most respectable feat imo. But Katarn is of undefinable strength and he spent the majority of the fight protecting the KNights who'd accompanied him iirc.
Really? Windu was completely unable to find Sidious' shatterpoint when they dueled up unil Skywalker walked in. Other than his trust in Anakin he couldn't find an exploitable weakness.
I don't recall this. In fact, as I recall Luke produced an illusion of himself realistic to fool Caedus while talking to him and pinning him his chair with the Force (Luke wasn't even in the room). And then fooled him again with an entire fleet of illusionary ships.
I seriously doubt he'd be able to affect Sidius in the same manner as he did a 13 year old child.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
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