I put him above Traya as well (and possibly KotOR II Exile, but I'm not sure), but mostly on gut instinct and hype as opposed to demonstrated feats or anything concrete.
How close do y'all think he is to KotOR Revan? I personally think there was only a slight difference. It did take until the final battle before Malak regarded Revan as having surpassed himself as the Dark Lord.
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I mean, there's him resisting Malachor, whereas Kreia failed to. And him gathering knowledge from there even outside the Trayus Academy, which would've been out of Kreia's reach due to the MSG.
Him also knowing all the knowledge of the Jedi is a good feat of knowledge.
And there's also Meetra musing his command of the Force being greater than anyone she had ever met, although whether you take that seriously is up to you.
The beating KotOR Revan gave to Malak under such circumstances is something I don't see Darth Revan pulling off, tbh.
1. Kreia was wracked by guilt, which is a significant setback for your willpower - though Revan should definitely have greater willpower than her regardless. But I agree, a good feat for Revan, even though it comes from Chronicles of the Old Republic, the shittiest source in history. Quote for him gathering knowledge on Malachor outside of the Trayus Academy?
2. I don't take him as of the Mandalorian Wars having a far greater command of the Force than Nihilus or Traya seriously, no. I do think he had a noticeably, if not significantly, greater command of the Force than Traya as Darth Revan, though.
There's also the quote about him being the most powerful Jedi by the end of the Mandalorian Wars, which isn't as hard to believe. And a good indicator of how powerful Darth Revan could become.
3. The thing is, that sort of thing is also down to arbitrary personal judgements and gut instinct. The only source I know of that would support your case is the quote claiming that Malak's duel with Darth Revan was a desperate one, but that could just refer to the stakes, and the quote itself is confusing in that it mixes Malak's Darth Revan fight with the KotOR finale one.
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1. That's a good point. Darth Revan should still have way more knowledge than her, though.
And IIRC, Revan also spent a longer time on Nathema than Meetra did, so that could be an indication of superior willpower.
2. If we omit Nihilus from it (which I have no problem doing considering his feats are so out of proportion for even prime Revan), I honestly have no problem with the quote. Why do you think it would apply to Darth Revan but not Mandalorian Wars Revan, though?
Ah, that's a really good quote.
3. Not sure what quotes you mean. There's nothing indicating Darth Revan could replicate KotOR Revan's feat, so I don't consider him capable of doing so. It's that simple.
1. The whole episode with Meetra on Nathema makes no sense to begin with.
2. Gut instinct, again. And you can't grant random exemptions from a quote - my point is that the quote is shit. MW Revan could well have a greater command of the Force than Traya - I'm just not seeing how it'd be far greater.
3. Depends if you think his stamina would flag from fighting all those other Dark Jedi and droids. If not, I could see him beating Malak in a good one.
1. Yes, but this completely conflicts with the core aspect of her character.
2. I meant gut instinct for MW Revan >>> Traya not being the case.
3. Alek was hugely inferior to Revan during the Mandalorian Wars. The gap can't have shifted that dramatically. Especially not with Darth Revan seemingly possessing Force knowledge that Malak didn't.
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