I don't recall seeing Maul set up a Galactic Spanning Crime Cartel after he got chopped in half and went Crazy with Spider Legs on that Junk Planet and then became a wandering hermit on a old sith temple planet.
And what a shitty why to rip off the old EU's Black Sun and Xizor Character for that crappy movie
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Black Sun still exists in canon and is different from Crimson Dawn. It's owned by maul, not xizor. Crimson Dawn and Dryden Vos was Xizor-ish, but that was only for the film. The future of Crimson Dawn will be a way to further Qi'ra's story. And pretty much the entire underworld is under Maul's control at this point. He owns Crimson Dawn, Black Sun, The Pykes, Mandalore, and Dathomir.
In the Ahsoka novel Maul lost Mandalore to the Empire just as Palpatine commenced Order 66, Dathomir is little more than a burned-out husk that is almost entirely devoid of life(you can thank Palpatine for that as well), and Crimson Dawn was only stated to have a "fragile" alliance with the Pykes by the time Solo takes place.
Crimson Dawn might still be some loose amalgamation of Black Sun, though... But it's still a far cry from what Maul's 'Shadow Collective' was at its peak.
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The way they talked about Crimson Dawn originally being a group of outlaws on this one planet and then turning into the organized crime they are during "Solo" made me think they're completely separate from the Black Sun, just that they had some help from Maul.
But yeah, I didn't know Palpatine ruined Maul as bad as he did.
Yeah, because Black Sun wasn't mentioned directly, their exact status in that era is up in the air. Given the sheer scale of Crimson Dawn, though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was essentially a rebooted Black Sun, courtesy of Maul. But I digress...
Regardless, Black Sun was directly mentioned in the Aftermath trilogy alongside the galaxy's other noteworthy crime syndicates, so it definitely returns back to normal at some point between Solo and RotJ either way. /shrug
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So you don’t care for Star Wars I so. Don’t create threadsabout stuff you don’t care about it makes you look like an attention whore who wants to be mocked for your own ignorance.
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&ou think this is all kid stuff so just stop. You don’t care at all we get it..then eoriginls were kids films according to George Lucas you twit. I live me some star wars just not as much as the MCU.
There a levels. Family Stuff and Stupid Kid Stuff. Every thing post Org Tril is pretty much Stupid Kid Stuff. Especially the "Cartoons" . But then the new movies are more CGI TOON then Live Action anymore.
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You said kids stuff but Lucas himself admitted it’s for children. So you agree you don’t like it at all so you can quit showing up to cry and *****. Glad we covered this. Bye bye.