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Ultimate Captain America vs 616 Captain America

No shields, pure h2h.


Who wins?


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Re: Ultimate Captain America vs 616 Captain America

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No shields, pure h2h.


Who wins?


Heart says 616.
Head says Ultimate.

Ultimate beats 616 for me (on the same way 616 beats Bruce for me). Equal in a pure-play h2h, but with one being just that much physically superior and over time that is enough.


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Good fight. Undecided. Leaning towards 616


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Ultimate Cap wins. More stronger and durable. If they have their shields, then it might help 616 Cap a bit.

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If everything is close to even, I think it falls on the most ruthless of the 2.

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Re: Re: Ultimate Captain America vs 616 Captain America

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Heart says 616.
Head says Ultimate.

Ultimate beats 616 for me (on the same way 616 beats Bruce for me). Equal in a pure-play h2h, but with one being just that much physically superior and over time that is enough.


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616 has better feats, though.


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In 616 Cap, the Super Soldier Serum enhanced him to Peak Olympic level.
In Ultimate Cap, the Super Soldier Serum enhanced to Superhuman level.

Ultimate Cap can lift at least 10 tons or more when stressed. He would eventually beat 616 Cap in brute strength.

Feats aren't that dependable given the fact that they are the same person and do roughly the same level feats.

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US Agent can lift 15 tons.



That's why Cap has NEVER, EVER beaten him in a fight.


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That's why Cap has NEVER, EVER beaten him in a fight.


Are you really this retarded?

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In 616 Cap, the Super Soldier Serum enhanced him to Peak Olympic level.
In Ultimate Cap, the Super Soldier Serum enhanced to Superhuman level.

Ultimate Cap can lift at least 10 tons or more when stressed. He would eventually beat 616 Cap in brute strength.

Feats aren't that dependable given the fact that they are the same person and do roughly the same level feats.
616 is a much better fighter and has beaten stronger people than Ult Cap. He wins.


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616 is a much better fighter and has beaten stronger people than Ult Cap. He wins.


616 does have better fighting feats but that doesn't necessarily give him the win. They are both without their shield so their only fighting option is to go up close and that's where strength excels at.

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america's ass wins lol


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616 does have better fighting feats but that doesn't necessarily give him the win. They are both without their shield so their only fighting option is to go up close and that's where strength excels at.


You're acting as if 616 Steve has never beaten the living shit out of physically stronger opponents.

That's... his whole thing, Wing. He relies on his insane skill and takes down powerful metas on a regular basis.

It's not a grappling/wrestling match or slugfest, he doesn't need to rely purely on his strength.

And FYI, 616 Cap has tons of strength feats.


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Re: Re: Ultimate Captain America vs 616 Captain America

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Heart says 616.
Head says Ultimate.

Ultimate beats 616 for me (on the same way 616 beats Bruce for me). Equal in a pure-play h2h, but with one being just that much physically superior and over time that is enough.
What establishes them as equals in h2h?

I get that we might assume that they’re close because they’re both Cap. But if we got a crossover tomorrow, I’d expect the comic to reference that 616 Cap has way, way, way more fighting experience than Ult Cap.

The Ultimates are all leaner than their 616 counterparts but also less proven.

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You're acting as if 616 Steve has never beaten the living shit out of physically stronger opponents.

That's... his whole thing, Wing. He relies on his insane skill and takes down powerful metas on a regular basis.

It's not a grappling/wrestling match or slugfest, he doesn't need to rely purely on his strength.

And FYI, 616 Cap has tons of strength feats.


Yes I agreed with 616 had better fighting feats. He can target pressure points and weak areas but I'm still convinced his strength and durability will give him the edge eventually.

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Are you really this retarded?

Wait. You're being sarcastic with this one. I see now thumb up



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Ultimate Cap being stronger means nothing. Assuming he is stronger.


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Yes I agreed with 616 had better fighting feats. He can target pressure points and weak areas but I'm still convinced his strength and durability will give him the edge eventually.


You don't want to start a featwar with 616 Caps.

Going by feats, he is the strongest and toughest of the two.

And then there is his crazy speed.


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Ultimate Cap being stronger means nothing. Assuming he is stronger.


Exactly.

We can compare the strength, speed, durability and speed showings.

616 universe is more inconsistent than the Ultimate Universe --- since it's been running for 81 years --- but that's its only disadvantage here.


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Didn't 616 Cap decapitate a tank with a shield throw?


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