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Superman vs Cyclops - twist

Both are powerless. Hand to hand only. Who's winning?


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Superman has his Kobra showing.

But then, Cyclops was being thrown about by Captain Marvel....


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Superman has his Kobra showing.


What about beating Class 500,000 Key? shifty


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I think Scott looked pretty good against Wolverine in Schism.

Yeah he had his blasts, but it was in a melee fight and offset the obvious claws/physical/hf advantage

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That's the fight I was thinking about when I made this.


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Also, the toughest X-man:
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Cyke kick off the dumb farmer.

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Superman beat three alternate Batmen while being depowered so...


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So Superman > Batman in skill?

Is that the conclusion we're to draw?

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*triggered*


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Cyclone kick !

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What about beating Class 500,000 Key? shifty


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So Superman > Batman in skill?

Is that the conclusion we're to draw?


It happened. It's no more over the top than Cyclops getting punched a great distance THEN through buildings that DS posted.


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Yes but what is the conclusion?


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Yes but what is the conclusion?


Well I guess that comic he was. It's not like Superman doesn't have other showings that would at the least arguably put him above Batman in skill.

Bringing up the example isn't any different than you posting him getting hit by Carol. Unless we're to conclude he has superhuman durability?


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He was what, though? I'm just pointing out that Carol and Scott faced off in a canon comic, with 616 character versions, at least.

Alt. Versions are.....iffy at best. As you say, am sure Superman has other feats with actual earth prime guys....


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Well I guess that comic he was. It's not like Superman doesn't have other showings that would at the least arguably put him above Batman in skill.

Bringing up the example isn't any different than you posting him getting hit by Carol. Unless we're to conclude he has superhuman durability?

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He was what, though? I'm just pointing out that Carol and Scott faced off in a canon comic, with 616 character versions, at least.

Alt. Versions are.....iffy at best. As you say, am sure Superman has other feats with actual earth prime guys....

How about Superman's showing against Superboy Prime at the end of Infinite Crisis.
Not the fight with Prime any special, but the fact he can withstand the falling from a star to a planet when he was depowered(or powerless?) after flying through a red sun is something I think pretty insane when it comes to durability

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And recently, when a villain stole Superman's powers, he can maneuver enough to tank that villain's punches without any permanent damage
That's the recent example I now can think of that similar to Carol's showing, there are probably more out there
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He was what, though? I'm just pointing out that Carol and Scott faced off in a canon comic, with 616 character versions, at least.

Alt. Versions are.....iffy at best. As you say, am sure Superman has other feats with actual earth prime guys....


But we're not talking all 3 being random alternate universe versions. One of them was Owlman.

As for other examples, the Kobra fight you mentioned, Kobra did beat Batman. He ended it with tech, but was winning the fight to begin with.

Two fights with Black Adam that he did fine against, one Adam was more powerful than Captain Marvel by writer intent. And Adam had it retconned to be skilled, as you know, powerless he beat Batman.

Does fine against Orion, an actual war god.

Fights Zod fine, when a powerless Zod beat Brainiac through pure skill. Yes, Brainiac starts losing his powers when he's outside his ship, but it took him weeks outside it to.....still be superhuman, and when out for I presume a similar amount of time against Zod, still had the strength advantage against Superboy and Krypto simultaneously.


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