I haven't read return of the king yet, but at the end of the film Frodo leaves space for Sam to write in his book, do you think Tolkien intended to make new adventures if the rings were succesfull enough.
Well.....not exactly. He was in the process of writing The Silmarillion when he passed away. But also, in the History of Middle Earth (I can't remember which volume) there is TONS of material concerning Sam and his children as he reads from the Red Book!
... yes, he wrote a text with Sam telling his children about his adventures during the war of the ring (quite cute text... and he calls his daughter elanorelle or something like that ), published in one of the histories of middleearth. There is also another text taking place in the Fourth Age, called "The New Shadow", but it takes place about 100 or 200 years later and isnt connected to the fellowship anymore.
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Tolkien wrote an epilogue that takes place a number of years after the Grey Havens with a focus on Samwise, Rosie, Elanor, and the rest of the Gamgee clan (12 kids). The epilogue ending is enchanting, and deals with Sam's relationship with his daughter, Elanor. She is excited because they have all been invited to meet with the King and Queen . . and, I believe, spend the summer with them. It's primarily a conversation . . but it is so clear that Sam adores the child that Frodo named. The ending has Sam and Rosie listening to the sounds of the sea on the shores of Middle-earth.
From HoME series:
I'm actually quite misty-eyed when I first read it.
Tolkien scrapped that alternative ending though and left with what we have today.
sam and frodo's bond was one of the best parts of the books for me.....they wouldn't separate ever....and then at the end frodo HAD to leave M:E...sam had to stay for frodo-las and rosie-las....and frodo went were sam could not follow....
Sam's line in the movie "Don't leave me here all alone. Don't go where I can't follow" was already a foreshadowing of their separation. Frodo when he left for Valinor left Sam feeling like he can no longer follow him forever (though we know what happens), but Frodo certainly didn't leave him alone.
His son Christopher Tolkien edited the book on his father be-half
Discos - he is the reason it is dounbtful a Silmarillion movie shall be made...
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yes that is what happened, some years after rosie died i believe
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
Sam also became mayor of the shire, or part of the shire I cannot remember, perhaps Hobbiton
Discos - you can see a mention of this in Frodo/Bilbos book in the end of ROTK
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
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Mar 1st, 2004 08:37 PM
), published in one of the histories of middleearth. There is also another text taking place in the Fourth Age, called "The New Shadow", but it takes place about 100 or 200 years later and isnt connected to the fellowship anymore.
