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mr.smiley
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A question regarding orcs

where they weak to sunlight?I always thought they where and thats why the Uraki where created.Am I right or wrong?

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Jun 2nd, 2005 11:57 PM

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I'm not entirely sure ... they're deffinately not in the films, I always though the Urukhai were created beause they were better fighters ...

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I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

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Jun 3rd, 2005 02:23 PM

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i'd always thought orcs hated sunlight

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wasn't it just the goblins that hated light?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by xXLauri�Xx
i'd always thought orcs hated sunlight

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wasn't it just the goblins that hated light?

The words 'goblin' and 'orcs' can be used alternatively. There was supposed to be a small difference in definition, but it just... got lost.

And, yes, they do hate sunlight and are weak to it - what you said in the beginning, Mr. Smiley, was how they showed it in the films, though that isn't completely correct as it wasn't Saruman who just 'created' the Uruk-hai; they were more or less 'immune' against sunlight though, that's true.

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One of the things that bothered me about the films was how they made it out to seem that Saruman created the Uruk-hai, when there are references throughout one, or two of the books recalling the "black Uruks of Mordor", or something of the like....

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One of the things that bothered me about the films was how they made it out to seem that Saruman created the Uruk-hai, when there are references throughout one, or two of the books recalling the "black Uruks of Mordor", or something of the like....

Yes, it was Sauron who created them, some centuries earlier... they were responsible for one of the first attacks on Osgiliath as far as I remember, that was in... 2475 TA? That's more than 500 years before the War of the Ring

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Jun 3rd, 2005 06:24 PM

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Uh....exactly. stick out tongue

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Yeah, I loves them Mordor Orcs....

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Originally posted by mr.smiley
I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

That book, has a lot of the author's own oppinion in it...and I don't think a lot of it is true to Tolkien. He just has a lot of ideas that's all.

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Is their any definate proof they where weak too it?Like within the book?

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Tolkien for example mentions it when the Fellowship leaves Moria smile

I think they also used that in the film.
What sort of 'proof' are you looking for? A quote or what? confused

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Originally posted by mr.smiley
I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

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That book, has a lot of the author's own oppinion in it...and I don't think a lot of it is true to Tolkien. He just has a lot of ideas that's all.

yeah.. we should get exa to rewrite a proper version yes

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Tolkien for example mentions it when the Fellowship leaves Moria I think they also used that in the film.
What sort of 'proof' are you looking for? A quote or what?

Kind of,but what you said helps a lot.

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The only quote from the book I remember atm is when Aragorn says "The Orcs will not come out till after dusk, but we must be far away before nightfall" - I can't find the passage though where he directly states how the orcs hate sunlight.

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