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TFU II Galen Marek vs Caedus
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Darth Truculent
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TFU II Galen Marek vs Caedus

The scenario - Juno and Marek are married and Caedus murders Juno. Would a bloodlusted Marek defeat Caedus?

Force
*Lightsabers
All Out

Battle starts in Caedus's office on Coruscant . . .


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axel_jovan
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Force: tossup
Sabers: 7/10 Caedus
All-out: 6-7/10 Caedus

Even though either one can win force duel, saber-wise the difference s much greater, odds are in Caedus' favor.


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MasterAshenVor
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Force : Caedus
Sabers : Galen
All-Out : Toss up.

Caedus was said to be close to Luke's skill in the Force and Luke in LOTF is more powerful than Sidious pretty much so Marek has no chance in Force.

In Lightsaber combat I give it to Galen since he defeated Shaak Ti, General Kota, Vader (Twice), Kasdan Paratus, Marris Brood. He has considerable skill and experience when it comes to Lightsaber combat and since I haven't played TFU II I don't know who else he's killed but I know he beats or encounters Boba Fett which is a big plus for any Jedi or Sith to come out alive against.

All-Out : I don't know, I think we would see a close fight but Caedus has an upper hand with the Force but if Galen gets in close and manages to use his own formidable Force skill to advance. I just don't know.


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Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Force : Caedus
Sabers : Galen
All-Out : Toss up.

Caedus was said to be close to Luke's skill in the Force and Luke in LOTF is more powerful than Sidious pretty much so Marek has no chance in Force.

In Lightsaber combat I give it to Galen since he defeated Shaak Ti, General Kota, Vader (Twice), Kasdan Paratus, Marris Brood. He has considerable skill and experience when it comes to Lightsaber combat and since I haven't played TFU II I don't know who else he's killed but I know he beats or encounters Boba Fett which is a big plus for any Jedi or Sith to come out alive against.

All-Out : I don't know, I think we would see a close fight but Caedus has an upper hand with the Force but if Galen gets in close and manages to use his own formidable Force skill to advance. I just don't know.


I'd say the exact opposite: Caedus wins the lightsaber duel, while Galen wins the Force battle. I don't remember Galen showing anything with a lightsaber.


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MasterAshenVor
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He was able to defeat Vader, Kota and Shaak Ti. I think that speaks for his Lightsaber AND Force skill.


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truejedi
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Vader, Kota and Shaak Ti have exactly WHAT saber feats to their names?


Caedus was renowned for his lightsaber skills, what does Galen have?

Galen is an undeniable force beast, but apparently on a lower level than Sidious. Greater than Vader it is stated, but less than ROTJ Sidious.... So i'm going with Caedus, who crossed blades with Luke and survived. Not many bad guys can say that. DE sidious certainly can't.
3/3 Caedus.

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I haven't played TFU2. Just how more powerful is Marek on this one?


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I read the comic book, he didn't look all that powerful. The trailer for the game made him look like a god though.

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As did the trailer for the first game iirc....


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I haven't played TFU2. Just how more powerful is Marek on this one?
As powerful as he was at the end of the first game, he's even more powerful than THAT at the beginning of the second game.


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He was able to defeat Vader, Kota and Shaak Ti. I think that speaks for his Lightsaber AND Force skill.


I just reviewed the scenes where he fought Vader, Kota and Shaak Ti. He gained the advantage by only using the Force on all three, so that hardly speaks for his lightsaber skills.


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As powerful as he was at the end of the first game, he's even more powerful than THAT at the beginning of the second game.


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Really, I got the impession that he was less so. He really struggled with Vader this time while he pwned the SOB back in the original.


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Really, I got the impession that he was less so. He really struggled with Vader this time while he pwned the SOB back in the original.
I was talking gameplay-wise. Where in the first you gradually learn new powers, in this he's got Lightning, Repulse, Saber throw, Super Saiyan etc. all at the very beginning,


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I just reviewed the scenes where he fought Vader, Kota and Shaak Ti. He gained the advantage by only using the Force on all three, so that hardly speaks for his lightsaber skills.


It's shown in the novel that he won those duels mainly due to his lightsabre skills.

Kota:-

Galen first tries to use the Force but Kota deflects everything. The fight then goes blade-to-blade.

"He (Kota) attempted his charge attack two more times, obviously hoping to force a mistake or wear out his opponent, but it was he who started to show the effects of the duel, he who took hits. Soon his cloak was a smoking rag and one of his shoulder pads was glowing red-hot.

The apprentice pressed harder, feeling victory and the attainment of his full power approaching."

Shaak Ti:-

This was mainly due to the Force (he telekinetically blocked a thrust that would have skewered his eye) but prior to that his lightsabre skills were good enough to keep up with her.

Vader:-

"The lightsabres flashed again-and it was the apprentice who found the chink in the armour that both of them had been waiting for. Vader's lightsare moved too slowly to block a blow to his chest, allowing the apprentice's blade to slash deeply across his armoured throat."

"He lunged forward. His former Master barely blocked the blow. A second scored a deep wound across his black-clad shoulder. A third stabbed deep into his thigh."

He finishes Vader off with the Force, but at that point Vader was already beaten at duelling.

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Caedus who was able to hang equally with a force raged luke skywalker (lotf) in a duel where skywalker was trying to kill him, speaks volumes.

Caedus was also greater in the knowledge of the force then luke, was he stronger in raw force power outage? That's debatable.

Basically caedus as of his younger age in comparison to luke was pretty much his equal in combat, either could have died that fight if ben was removed from the get go.


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though luke had opportunities to finish Caedus and passed on them because of Ben. Ben hurt luke more than he helped him in that fight.

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Caedus who was able to hang equally with a force raged luke skywalker (lotf) in a duel where skywalker was trying to kill him, speaks volumes.

Caedus was also greater in the knowledge of the force then luke, was he stronger in raw force power outage? That's debatable.

Basically caedus as of his younger age in comparison to luke was pretty much his equal in combat, either could have died that fight if ben was removed from the get go.


Have you read the fight?

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axel_jovan
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Originally posted by Board Walker
Caedus who was able to hang equally with a force raged luke skywalker (lotf) in a duel where skywalker was trying to kill him, speaks volumes.

Caedus was also greater in the knowledge of the force then luke, was he stronger in raw force power outage? That's debatable.

Basically caedus as of his younger age in comparison to luke was pretty much his equal in combat, either could have died that fight if ben was removed from the get go.


No.

Btw. A comparison of any SW character, ever , to Luke Skywalker that has an expression “equal to” or “greater than” is directly contradicting G-canon, is a blasphemy toward Zeus, and is punished by throwing the soul of the infidel into the eternal fires of hell...





Or... whatever smokin'

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You are correct. Your master has taught you well.

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