Loki vs Strange ...now with both having full power.
Loki is a born magician, internal magic that is natural.
Strange has little internal magic, but he has nearly the same experience as Loki.
They've faught once before, and though Strange wasn't experienced and didn't have many of his artifacts and wasn't a sorcerer supreme yet.
But he still managed to stalmated Loki for a while.
Who do you think would win, now that Strange is at full power.
i wonder what the motivation behind this little match up was... hmmmm...?
i thought you'd started doing links and pics...... very dissapointing
thoughts on the match..... Strange may have a wider range of power... but i'd think Loki would have more magical stamina and more powerful "evil" style magic
Actually, I made this before in another thread, but it wasn't all about loki.
Just wanted to see if other knew Strange was uber inexperienced.
Yet, he still held his own and stalemated him.
I think Strange could go over Loki's head and invoke someone more powerful.
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i agree long. i think strange would probably win this. he has access i think to higher order powers. at least based on what has been shown. perhaps loki could also invoke some of the same high powers strange does. i'd suspect his pride would prevent that, however. good match though.
Strange = Human sorceror
Loki = God sorceror
Experience? Loki has lived a LOT longer than Strange. Not sure what experience you speak of, but if he stalemated Loki, then that's what I would assume would happen if they fought again. Loki has stalemated Surfer before...so he has his accomplishments too.
Course I'm biased...but so's lp.
Getting scared you might not be able to take Loki, eh lp? That's ok. If we fight, it won't be about magic anyway. Or will it? Bwahaha...
Now for a more serious argument for Loki (gotta protect my boy)...
Strange has some access to powerful magics, but Loki's is more versatile because it is inherent within him. His Marvel bio says he's created dragons out of clouds...sounds to me like some magical matter manipulation. If that's true then creating duplicates, numerous distractions and alterations, or changing the environment of a fight to suit his needs is not out of the realm of possibility.
He's also given magical powers to people, can moonwalk between dimensions (mainly Asgard and our dimension), and has pretty much anything else that Strange might throw at him (telepathy, telekinesis, teleporting...running out of 't' powers, etc).
And being inherent within him, he will not only be more comfortable with his magic, but he'll be able to use it more quickly most of the time. In a long, drawn-out fight, I'd take Loki.
Has it been explicitly stated that Loki can't call upon great magical deities, or does he just not do it?
One big advantage that Loki has over Strange in this fight is that his magic is inherent. Most people forget the fact that the power Strange receives from other entities is NOT guaranteed. They can choose to provide power or not. The Vishanti refused to grant Strange power during the whole Shuma Gorath/Sligguth affair (although they did provide some assistance). When Salome was fighting Strange and she was going to destroy the earth, the Vishanti rescinded their agreement to provide her with power. It's never a guarantee to rely on someone else's power.
That said, if Strange's mystical crew has his back, he can counter pretty much anything that Loki can throw at him.
Magic battles are almost never won by power. They're won by skill, craft, and lots of subterfuge. Both Loki and Strange have these in spades...
When they first met, Dr. Strange was fighting a HOLOGRAM
created by Loki. It wasn't nearly as powerful as the real Loki.
Strange still was getting defeated by Loki's self-hologram.
If it wasn't for Thor's intervention, Strange would be dead.
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