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LordFear
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Count Nefaria versus Black Bolt

I am proud to bring the good people of KMC a helluva battle!!!
People please THINK before making your decision!!!
Both opponents are not very well known to most and get very little respect but commands your utmost!!!
What say yee all??

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I'll be the first to post and say quite frankly I don't know.

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i'll be second and say that Nefaria would rip Black Bolt to pieces

he's taken Thor's best hits without flinching and has a bunch of other cool abilities as well..... BB's only option would be to scream at him..... but it's debatable as to whether or not it would do anything but annoy Nefaria


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Yup Nefaria it is, ps have a look at the Thor-Herc thread I know its been done before many times but some of the things people are stating are hilarious.


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Black Bolt.

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I am leaning towards BB myself as well Beyonder. I read both stats and Nef do have some weaknesses in powers and character. He is known for his constant vaunting and narcissism. BB is among the highest caliber of leaders. He is highly durable and not easily hurt physically. Most of Nef's power's would not affect BB in this fight, therefore he would have to rely on other tactics. BB's scream at full strength has never been seen in action.Thing himself has tried but got his ass handed to him by BB. I don't know it's not as cut and dry in my opinion anyway.

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BB there aren't many beings that can handle his scream...

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Nefaria is in another league entirely compared to the Thing..... think Superman x 5...... on steroids..... but kinda evil

BB can't hurt him but Nefaria could punch BB's head clean off


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I think BB (please, don't thank for me for this well-thought contribution).


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Originally posted by Scoobless
Nefaria is in another league entirely compared to the Thing..... think Superman x 5...... on steroids..... but kinda evil uh huh........

BB can't hurt him but Nefaria could punch BB's head clean off
roll eyes (sarcastic) uh huh........ superman x 5 based on? He had energy templates of Powerman1, Whirlwind and living laser amped up. A version of the Zemo machine that made Wonderman made him. It was a few times Powerman1's strength therefore he is not Superman x5. He would beat BB though

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"Known Powers:
For most of his life Count Nefaria possessed no superhuman powers whatsoever. However, due to Professor Kenneth Sturdy’s treatment, Nefaria briefly possessed the same superhuman abilities as the Living Laser (that is to say, the powers the Laser possessed before he became a being composed wholly of energy), the original Power Man (more specifically, the powers that Power Man had before he became the second Goliath) and the Whirlwind. However, each of Nefaria’s superhuman abilities was a hundred times greater than the similar superhuman power possessed by one of these three other criminals"

and this bio is out of date....... he was even more powerful than that when he beat the crap out of the Avengers and the Thunderbolts....... and controlled Atlas and Wonderman


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Well thanx who kid for your savvy and insightful contribution/lol
But Scoobles I just want to point out again how being an Inhuman might make it much harderfor Ne's one punch to take BB's head off.
BB at full scream couldn't take Nef out, your opinion?

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It was a few times Powerman1's strength therefore he is not Superman x5. He would beat BB though


it was 100 times Power Man's strength


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BB fought against the Sphynx to a standstill and Sphynx again fought against Galactus.

If BB uses his scream then CN is toast, he doesn't even have to use it to win

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Originally posted by whirlysplat
roll eyes (sarcastic) uh huh........ superman x 5 based on? He had energy templates of Powerman1, Whirlwind and living laser amped up. A version of the Zemo machine that made Wonderman made him. It was a few times Powerman1's strength therefore he is not Superman x5. He would beat BB though


100 times the powers of Powerman (who is class 100), Whirlwind and Living Laser. One huge disadvantage that BB would prbably remove is dependnece on draining ionic beings energy (BB can muck around with ions)


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Sphynx fought Galactus when he had drained the computers of Xandar before which he was not that powerful.


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BB at full scream couldn't take Nef out, your opinion?


yes...... my opinion..... as i don't think it's ever been tested

i'm basing it on the fact that he took full strength hits from Mjolnir without being so much as moved .... let alone hurt

you'd have to amplify Thor's attack by a lot just to get a reaction out of the guy.... BB's scream is said to be as powerful as a nuke....

"any attempt to use his vocal cords – from the merest whisper to a full scream – triggers an uncontrollable disturbance of the particle / electron interaction field. This result in a shock wave equivalent, at maximum force, to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon"

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...b/blackbolt.htm

i believe Nefaria can take a nuke without much damage


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it was 100 times Power Man's strength
Then I ask you this and I have the 2 issues in my garage. How did a boosted Iron man match him in strength for a bit and Wonderman stagger him. I do not remember it being a 100 times.

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Then I ask you this and I have the 2 issues in my garage. How did a boosted Iron man match him in strength for a bit and Wonderman stagger him. I do not remember it being a 100 times.


i haven't read all his appearances but that sounds doubtful

maybe because he used to lose power quickly..... especially if he expended a lot of energy in a fight..... he doesn't do that so much anymore

and the 100 times thing is from online bio's that i've come across..... i didn't just pull a figure out of thin air


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I do know for a fact that Inhumans have physiology totally different from humans. They are more similar in make up with Eternals. I remember Mr. Fantastic saying that once because they were referring to Sersi. So isn't it conceivable that BB could withstand blows from Nef?

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