Well, we cant really tell though, since we havent seen much of the Endless to actually gauge them. Dream is the only member of it who was introduced to us in detail. And by reading Sandman, you can tell that he's pretty powerful. He didnt just wipe out an entire race, but he wiped them out in a way that they never existed in the first place. And he's not even the strongest of them, it was implied that Destiny and Death are stronger than him and Desire, Despair, Delirium and Destruction are below but very close to him in power.
But as I said, we rarely see his brothers and sisters, so I think, currently, its impossible to pick the winners of this match.
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The Endless are likely more powerful than Pantheonic Gods (Odin, Bast and such...) but still less powerful than regular angels, not to mention Michael and Lucifer.
I wouldnt say that theyre less powerful than regular angels, theyre most likely more powerful than them, Death for example, still holds power over them. Lucifer and Michael, yes I agree with you on that.
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morpheus has been shown to be afraid of lucifer, but lucifer has been shown to respect morpheus (dream) as well. dream also managed to outwit lucifer and earned lucifer's enmity. the endless are enormously powerful, but they don't wield their power like the other 'abstracts' in this fight. i agree with synchro - too hard to tell.
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it really is impossible to say. the endless don't operate like this - ie they don't run out and battle, so they are not shown in these situations. you could take kg's stance and say abstracts win because endless haven't done anything, but that's kind of a nonsensical/ignorant (sorry, kg) position - just because they HAVEN'T doesn't mean they can't. and what's worse for this thread: they likely WON'T be shown doing the things that would warrant this kind of comparison. as i said, they're not written like that - and frankly, that's just the way i like it. not every abstract needs to be SHOWN obliterating a universe - if they are written well enough, certain things can be inferred. and if you know the endless, you know they are massively powerful - whether you've witnessed 'feats' or not.
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hey whirly, why don't you come right out and tell us how you REALLY feel about sentry's threads? all this very subtle beating around the bushes has me completely confused . . .
Anyway, maybe if the Endless has been shown to do more things and was shown in fights, then yes kgkg's logic would be ok. But the problem kg, is that theyre rarely seen to be doing anything, much less fighting. Dream is the only one weve seen do anything. We've never seen Destiny fight, weve never seen Death fight, weve never seen Desire fight, weve never seen Despair fight, weve never seen Delirium fight, and weve never seen Destruction fight.
So yes, agree with leo and whirly. We cant tell.
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Jun 27th, 2005 02:28 AM
I found that out nearly two months ago. That's why he's on my ignore list.
