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Should child molesters be considered guilty before proven innocent?
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Should child molesters be considered guilty before proven innocent?
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Should child molesters be considered guilty before proven innocent?

Sense young children do not understand the concept of a lie, should child molesters who are accused of molesting a child below the age of 10, be legally concerted guilty and then be given a chance to prove their innocents?

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Should all child molesters be concerted, innocent before proven guilty, regardless of how persuasive the evidence is at the time of arrest?


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No...

Innocent until proven guilty, no exceptions.


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No...

Innocent until proven guilty, no exceptions.

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If someone finds a man having sex with a 8 year old girl, You are going to treat him with ' innocent till proven guilty crap" ???????????????


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Well, in that unlikely scenario he already is blatantly guilty.

However, he still had to go through the courtsystem and have a trial to make his guilt valid, and until the trial is over, he must be technically innocent.

You can't pick and choose who is innocent until proven guilt and who is guilty by default, it's all or nothing.


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Originally posted by fini
If someone finds a man having sex with a 8 year old girl, You are going to treat him with ' innocent till proven guilty crap" ???????????????


How many people in this world do you think could resist the impulse to beat the life out of someone caught in such a despicable act?

Answer: very few.

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Re: Should child molesters be considered guilty before proven innocent?

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Sense young children do not understand the concept of a lie, should child molesters who are accused of molesting a child below the age of 10, be legally concerted guilty and then be given a chance to prove their innocents?

Or

Should all child molesters be concerted, innocent before proven guilty, regardless of how persuasive the evidence is at the time of arrest?


its something they are considering here in britain...putting anyone who is arrested any kind of sex crime on the sex offenders register temporarily until the outcome of the trial

personally i find it a very slippery slope...as well as the idea to tell people in a community if a sex offender is housed nearby...this will only fuel vigilante actions despite the fact that the person will have served their sentence


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Should child molesters be considered guilty before proven innocent?
well I guess by calling them them child molester you consider them guilty already

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didnt we already have a thread on this like a week ago? blink


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Well, in that unlikely scenario he already is blatantly guilty.

However, he still had to go through the courtsystem and have a trial to make his guilt valid, and until the trial is over, he must be technically innocent.

You can't pick and choose who is innocent until proven guilt and who is guilty by default, it's all or nothing.
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its something they are considering here in britain...putting anyone who is arrested any kind of sex crime on the sex offenders register temporarily until the outcome of the trial

personally i find it a very slippery slope...as well as the idea to tell people in a community if a sex offender is housed nearby...this will only fuel vigilante actions despite the fact that the person will have served their sentence
And yet a man can be shot without trial if in the opinion of a police officer they look suspicious and could be a terrorist...


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didnt we already have a thread on this like a week ago? blink


There was another thread, but I didn't think it cut to point of the issue, and was mostly off topic.


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To the thread question euhm No, I'm pretty convinced a ten year old can be made to lie for his or her parents.


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BF is right, if you make exceptions, your system can be manipulated


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Innocent till proven guilty look at what happened in Cleveland UK based on poor psychologists, many innocent men on remand etc.


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a child molester is someone who has molested a child so are the question for a former child molester or? if not they aint a child molester before they act upon it to gain that "title". And if someone have molested a child he /she is a child molester regardless if they are found guilty or not by the court....technicalities can free someone of charges even if they are the real perpetrator

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Child molesters have patterns in their life that they follow....and personality traits also that can be detected....In my opinion....most children will not lie if they are with someone they truly trust and confide in...Also, the child will have a change in personality and behavior...

If I caught someone in the act....I'd kill them myself...probably go to jail for it also.....

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Well, in that unlikely scenario he already is blatantly guilty.

However, he still had to go through the courtsystem and have a trial to make his guilt valid, and until the trial is over, he must be technically innocent.

You can't pick and choose who is innocent until proven guilt and who is guilty by default, it's all or nothing.
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No...

Innocent until proven guilty, no exceptions.


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You can't pick and choose who is innocent until proven guilt and who is guilty by default, it's all or nothing
depends on how they were caught!!!! caught and brought in by evidence and suspicion or caught with their hand in the cookie jar

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If someone finds a man having sex with a 8 year old girl, You are going to treat him with ' innocent till proven guilty crap" ???????????????

#1 DUH! You catched him in the act.
#2 Thats rape........


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Innocent.

Everybody deserves a trial.


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