Registered: Mar 2005
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Clone Wars 'toon/General Grievous vs (ROTS) Master Kenobi
The Grievous I speak of is the one "Team Ki Adi Mundi" (Jedi master) fought against before his chest plate was crushed by Master Windu. Him versus the Negotiator. You can even give Obi Wan a blaster for this battle if you want.
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Obi Wan wins... GG from the Clone wars is no different then GG from ROTS.. He just looks different, and Obi Wan is still more powerful then GG, so Obi Wan wins.
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: United States, Earth
"toon-Clone Wars" Gen. G. was no different than Ep 3 Gen. G., you say?.
So you're saying Ep3 Gen. G. had the same abilities and was as agile as he was in the "toon-clone war" series.
You do know that Windu used the Force to crush Grievous' entire torso, causing him to developed a sickly cough, his reflexes were slowed, and he became craven. You do know that right..? ok
I would say that Master Ki Adi Mundi, a member of the Jedi Council was a better Jedi than Obi Wan Kenobi was in many respects, otherwise he wouldn't be a Master Jedi while Obi Wan was still a knight just before ep3, right when Gen. G. caught up with Ki Adi Mundi and several other Jedi.
Why was "Master" Ki Adi Mundi, along with other jedi, sweating and trembling his arse of at the footstep of an approaching Gen. G.?
Was he scared? or maybe he just knew what Gen. G. was capable of.
If Jedi Master Ki Adi Mundi barely escaped with his life leaving 4 or 5 dead jedi behind, what makes you think Jedi knight Obi Wan would do better.
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Fistofthenorth is right in this ONE instance. Most of the time he isn't
GG was damaged a lot when he during his fight with Mace. Think Anakin taking a lava bath. Same idea. CW GG was better that he was in ROTS, but Obi-wan might still win.
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Registered: Jul 2005
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Grievous in his previous state(CW)would win. Not easily because Kenobi isn't a chump...
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Registered: Apr 2005
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Didn't the Clone Wars use Mace crushing his chest an excuse for his sickly cough, whereas George Lucas wanted him to have it all along to show that cyborgs aren't infallable, or something?
Was he even crushed? Isn't LOE more official then the CW cartoons, in which case the crushing of the chest never happened.
Besides for all we know the only one that can judge GG his power thinkgs GG Will lose from Obi Wan in perfect health or not, it doesn't matter to him. Obi Wan is better, he's the better fighter. He would slaughter GG no matter what. And there isn't anything that shows him really getting weaker because of what happened except for of course him not being as powerful as in the cartoons, but nobody is. Really for all we know he just developed a cough.
Windu did nothing that was evil. He was attempting to rescue the Chancellor, who he knew (if captured) would lead to the loss of a war and en entire galaxy in darkness. He had an opening to kill him and prevent the loss of the war, and he took it. He did nothing wrong.
Registered: Feb 2005
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You're thinking consequentially; I'm not. The point is jedi are supposed to have reverence for all life and as Mace himself said, "We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers."
Using the force to crush a living being is a sith trait, not a jedi trait.
Janus is right, it may lead to better good but its an act that goes against the Jedi Code. Just like killing Palpatine would have, it was the better thing to do probably. But when Mace was ready to do so he was betraying the jedi code.
Registered: Feb 2005
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Yeah. I've heard a lot of talk about how the failings of the jedi order didn't start with Dooku or Anakin really, but also with Mace. He's a wild card character with a lot of pent up hatred and anger, and he lives close to the edge. If he force crushed Grievious to save the chancellor, he is violating the jedi code, whether we like it or not.
Registered: Jul 2005
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Well, as far a lightsaber combat Grievous still has a bit too learn. It states on SW.com that when he and Kenobi started throwing punches on the landing platform, Grievous had the clear advantage. In a Lightsaber duel Grievous might win. In a slugfest Grievous owns. Clone Wars Cartoon is canon. It was made to bridge the gap between the movies.
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Last edited by RaidenDeadpool on Sep 27th, 2005 at 04:44 PM
Sep 26th, 2005 10:19 AM
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