No she wouldn't, it has been stated many times that Cap's "fighting style" is fluid ... the fact that Promethues took Shiva down in under 3 seconds seems to suggest that she's a little over rated.
Captain America isn't a better fighter than Shiva.
Prometheus took her down due to two reasons:
A) She was grossly overconfident.
B) Prometheus upgrades his systems to vastly increase his strength, speed and reaction time. Also he had her fighting style as well as every other damn martial artist in DC in his files. Even WW.
Captain is a natural at fighting. But Shiva was born to fight and she simply knows more MA skills and techniques than he does.
Plus the fact that she possesses the same "body-reading" ability that Batgirl enables her to read Cap's every move as well as copy it.
Cap's a good fighter but he's not an MA like Shiva or Richard Dragon or Shang Chi...
And if you think about it, Cap's had what a couple of years in WWII to learn some MAs and few years as an Avenger to do the same?
Where in the world did he find the time to learn every MA style there is?
Shiva on the other hand has been doing it for her entire life.
Shiva just has reputation but she is not a better fighter then Cap. Thanks to Cap's enhanced mind he can fight better then her, more effectively anyways.
If Shiva is a god at fighting for a god LOL she sure couldn't beat Batman 3 times in there fights.
Plus she only beat BG once while BG beat her two times. Then getting owned by Prom. Yeah her reputation is better then her feats.
Shiva's never lost to Batman legititmately. Except in Batman/Superman. Where Batman managed to deflect a charging Captain Marvel with a swivel kick...
The first time they fought Robin helped with a gas grenade.
The second time they fought Batman nearly managed to defeat her but Shiva won in the end.
People are REALLY underestimating Lady Shiva's skill. She's on par or nearly on par with Richard Dragon. She's beaten Bronze Tiger...the same Bronze Tiger who's beaten Batman easily in their first encounter and nearly beat Batman again if not for Superman's intervention. Bronze Tiger also trained Richard Dragon...
Batgirl beat Shiva because of two reasons:
A) Batgirl mindf*cked her by realizing Shiva had a death-wish thus making Shiva attack irrationally.
B) It was implied the second time that Shiva lost on purpose as she was her mother and wanted to see Batgirl surpass her.
To imply that Captain America is more skilled at MA than Shiva would imply that he's better or at least as good as Richard Dragon or Cassandra Cain in MA.
And that's simply not true.
He's stronger but speed is up in the air since Shiva is a bullet-timer and she can keep up with Batgirl.
And sometimes, strength isn't all that's cracked up to be:
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Captain America can win but not due to skill. He can win due to his superior strength and endurance and his 3-foot wide shield.
However he's going to work very, very, very hard for it. Simply because Shiva specializes in one-hit kills. Meaning a single strike from Shiva (even if it's glancing) can kill Cap if he's not careful.
But Cap isn't as skilled in MA as Shiva. That's simply not true...
This list is confirmed by not only Prometheus (who's compiled every damn martial artist in the world) but also Batman, Sensei and many other MAs in the world.
The trio were inseperable for a while but they grew apart. Each of them considered each other equal in skill.
Actually the first time they fought Batman dodged her attacks easily as Shiva tested Bruce. Unless your speaking of a different issue?
[/QUOTE]The second time they fought Batman nearly managed to defeat her but Shiva won in the end.[/QUOTE]
You might be remembering wrong the second fight Shiva used nun-chucks and Batman disarmed her and held his own then Robin interferred and struck Shiva from behind.
[/QUOTE]People are REALLY underestimating Lady Shiva's skill. She's on par or nearly on par with Richard Dragon. She's beaten Bronze Tiger...the same Bronze Tiger who's beaten Batman easily in their first encounter and nearly beat Batman again if not for Superman's intervention. Bronze Tiger also trained Richard Dragon...[/QUOTE]
Bronze Tiger did defeat Batman but Bats stalemated him in the second and third fight. Superman didn't really save Batman as they were at a stalemate IIRC 2 hits for Bats and 2 hits for BT.
[/QUOTE]Batgirl beat Shiva because of two reasons:
A) Batgirl mindf*cked her by realizing Shiva had a death-wish thus making Shiva attack irrationally.
B) It was implied the second time that Shiva lost on purpose as she was her mother and wanted to see Batgirl surpass her. [/QUOTE]
It was also implied that Batgirl wanted to lose the first fight thats why Shiva healed her as well. They fought a third time and BG won it anyways.
[/QUOTE]To imply that Captain America is more skilled at MA than Shiva would imply that he's better or at least as good as Richard Dragon or Cassandra Cain in MA.
And that's simply not true.
He's stronger but speed is up in the air since Shiva is a bullet-timer and she can keep up with Batgirl.[/QUOTE]
This is a impressive feat Daredevil and many marvel street level charcters have such feats. Batman has also kept up with Shiva and BG as well.
[/QUOTE]And sometimes, strength isn't all that's cracked up to be:
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Captain America can win but not due to skill. He can win due to his superior strength and endurance and his 3-foot wide shield.
However he's going to work very, very, very hard for it. Simply because Shiva specializes in one-hit kills. Meaning a single strike from Shiva (even if it's glancing) can kill Cap if he's not careful.
But Cap isn't as skilled in MA as Shiva. That's simply not true... [/QUOTE]
As a MA your probably right as a better fighter I give it too Cap. I agree Cap will struggle but in the end I give it too him.
Even without the SSS Cap has defeated tough opponents like Crossbones(who gave him problems with the SSS)
ummmm no. i gotta disagree with u on that one. Captain America is just about better than Shiva in every way, except combat skill. shes trained her whole life and has that body language reading stuff that gives her an edge over anyone like Batgirl does. Shiva>Batgirl>Batman>Cap, in h2h fighting skill. now, because Steve may have some enhanced physical attributes, he would take this fight, plus he has his shield.
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Feb 16th, 2007 01:32 AM
i gotta disagree with u on that one. Captain America is just about better than Shiva in every way, except combat skill. shes trained her whole life and has that body language reading stuff that gives her an edge over anyone like Batgirl does. Shiva>Batgirl>Batman>Cap, in h2h fighting skill. now, because Steve may have some enhanced physical attributes, he would take this fight, plus he has his shield. 
