You need a license to fish.
You need a license to get married.
Should a license be required to have children?
Qualifications: the emotional and financial resources for proper child care. This does not mean a global or national policy, necessarily; could be quite local. Put aside, for the moment, the logistics of enforcing such a law or what to do with offenders. Purely theoretical: is this a good idea? Would this help prevent cases like Lisa Steinberg or Nixmary? Or is this "God-given right" off-limits to any kind of legislation whatsoever?
Discuss.
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When I think about the rules and guidelines that are imposed by different adoption agencies on adoptive parents and the challenges they need to overcome, sometimes coping with a failed adoption, then I can' t rule out the possible establishment of such a license for everyone.
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Laws requiring parental licensure
I believe that, during my grandchildren's lifetimes, the U.S. Supreme Court will find a way to approve laws requiring parental licensure.
Traditional societies in which children are socialized collectively, the method to which our species is evolutionarily adapted, have very little crime. In the modern U.S., the proportion of fatherless children, living with unmarried mothers, currently some 10 million in all, has increased more than 400% since 1960 while the violent crime rate rose 500% by 1994, before dipping slightly due to a delayed but equal increase in the number of prison inmates (from 240,000 to 1.4 million.) In 1990, across the 50 States, the correlation between the violent crime rate and the proportion of illegitimate births was 0.70.
About 70% of incarcerated delinquents, of teen-age pregnancies, of adolescent runaways, involve (I think result from) fatherless rearing. Because these frightening curves continue to accelerate, I believe we must eventually confront the need for parental licensure — you can't keep that newborn unless you are 21, married and self-supporting — not just for society's safety but so those babies will have a chance for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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Licensing then allows for more laws to come in and dictate action and recourse. In theory it might sound nice but in reality it's shit.
I realize you just posted some licenses like fishing for example to illustrate this however fishing license means you need someone to police it, rules and fines if you break it etc etc..........more rules don't make for a better society. Better defined and clearer SIMPLE rules make for a better society.
Anyway it is certainly interesting however in practice I would hope this would get burned before it even HOPED to get anywhere near a legislative committee
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instant removal of child after birth? i dont think they would make them terminate the kiddo though
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i personally think that it laws are unjust. All of them. Ok, I don't know how to word this, so it's gonna sound weird. My thoughts are, if we get to vote for this law(parent licensing), and i can be a good dad, but i dont think the license is neccesary, and the law is passed, y should i get one? Why should someone put rules that i have to follow. We are all equal, and even if your outvoted, why should you have rules? We should be able to decided EVERYTHING for ourselves. Although of course, there'll be a bunch of ****tards who screw it up, so............................it doesnt matter. (im not saying we shouldnt have laws, it's just something ive always thought about)
in short: we follow rules that we neccesarily didn't help make or decide on, yet we ahve to follow them.
I know my post makes no sense.
And on parent lisencing, it should be done(this is contradicting my last rant), although people would f*ck up and have kids by mistake, and then not want to give them up ifthey aren't suitable to be parents. Or the people who are deciding they are suitable could be assholes.......ehhh..........ignore this post......
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I'm having to think on this, it depends, all if you have a baby, if you don't have the needs to take care of it, you'll probably give it to someone, also a License would be good I suppose. I'll just ponder about this.
I don't think it would work. How would they prevent people from having children? Perhaps they could pay for vasectomys and such, but who would provide the funding? And what if someone were to have children without this licence? Would they be forced to get an abortion? Or would they have to put it up for adoption? Adoption agencies would be over-flowing with babies. Once again, who would pay for all this? I really don't think this would work.
You can handle kids but not adults. A person becomes an adult at any age, from the moment they think to need something and try to get it by themselves with no help. The legal nonsense is 18-21 but many things already happened before, proving that this regulation is wrong so the law becomes "a must" not a convenient thing. This is my part to offer on this thread, no need to create my own that might look alike. As for yours, it is important to have a law controlling birth, but a private law (each individual) or our own principles. If we believe we don't live safe we shouldn't have children. This should be a great support for the next generation, making it with better positive attitude. It is good to dare believing there is a chance. Are you able to give good descriptions? That is all from me here. Please do continue without me. Oh, almost forgot my best part for you kindly. In some countries where everyone seems not to live well they have no options but to keep life normally or leave the place for good. In this case people are not to blame bye.
tough call imo, in a lot of ways I agree with Storm it is unlogical that we impose such strict rules on people who want to adopt but no rules on people who get a baby. On the other hand licenses would create the problem of what to do when ppl without a license have a kid.
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Probably have the kid adopted the mother neutered and the father castrated in a new world order society.
Seriously, even with the requirements DAVID LYKKEN says, being above the age of 21, self-supported and married, there would still be no guarantee of upbringing the child in a proper manner.
How many adults meeting those requirements have enough money to pay for a house and foot the bills ?
Unless the parent is born in a wealthy family and has it all sorted out, parents are still going to have to spend a considerable amount of time at work rather than with their child, that is if the argument of time with the family is valued.
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hmmm.... It sounds like a good idea... but what about people who are all ready unfit to be parents? would there kids get taken off them straight away???
this knida radical thinking tends to evolve other ideas though... Now you have made sure the parents are perfect... would they not want a perfect child? (gene tampering and what not..)
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Jan 25th, 2006 01:59 PM
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