Spetznaz:
Superman
Jean Grey (No Phoenix Force)
Magneto
Human Torch
Ice Man
TheKahn:
Thor
Cable (Not God-like)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Magma
Bishop
Now, I've weighed the teams, and imo they're even. You two may not agree that the teams are equal but this thread is to see whether either of you can make good and valid points and arguements to sway the general publics oppinion of which team would win. Good luck!
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Since neither have shown up, I ,UniOmni a poster superior to both will endeavor to do them justice.
Spetz's team loses, but does considerable damage via a speedblitz.
Superman is capable of taking out Cable and Bishop and Magma(faster than thought, thus faster than thought activated shields) before Thor can complete the motion of tossing Mjnollir at him.
Once he does finish and toss it however, Superman will be knocked for a loop. He won't be out, but hurt significantly.
While he rakes in the solar rays to replenish, Magneto, Johnny, Iceman and Red will be bringing it to GL.
And unless they are no longer mutants by birth, they will lose.
Gl can cure the mutant condition i believe via the ring, and that will leave Superman all by his lonesome.
And while he may be good, he isn't beating both Hal and Thor at the same time.
Alright, you’ve given me the following characters:
- Superman
- Magneto
- IceMan
- Human torch
- Jean Gray
In essence a pretty powerful bunch.
However ‘my’ team is facing a pretty powerful bunch of characters, ranging from arguably the most powerful Green Lantern, a Norse deity, and a high level psionic, plus an energy absorber and Magma.
So how could my team do it?
Well, they could try the force versus force approach, whereby a member of my team faces an opposing member from the other team (and arguably my team can be able to pull a win that way, although it would be a hard fight and open to too much debate).
My team could also opt for the ‘tried and true’ approach. For instance it would be as simple as having Superman blitz Cable first, then several picaseconds later take out Bishop and Magma; thus leaving Hal Jordan and Thor for the rest of my team to pile on.
But that is too linear.
Thus I’d have my team take an unorthodox approach, and not only that but one that is a tad bit harder than the ‘tried and true approach.’ Moreover this methodology would lead to the potential destruction of the solar system.
Furthermore my plan would have all but one of my team perishing, as well as the entire population of this planet, plus killing any members of the other team that did not have Hal Jordan whisk them out to the next galaxy pronto!
Weird plan …..but as long as one of my members is present in the vicinity that was once earth, and as long as the other members cannot come back, I technically win.
No opposition left!
Anyways, here’s my plan:
I would have Superman whisk all of my team to the magnetic north pole of the earth, which he should be able to do in a second or two at the most.
Once there I would have Magneto levitate up to a height of 20 feet, and then extend his most powerful magnetic field in a semi-circle below him (and he would tap into the magnetic field of the earth as an augmentation to his own power, in much the same way he tapped into the earth’s magnetic field to create a planet-wide EMP surge in that comic where he basically knocked out every single electric/electronic device in the world in an instant).
Anyways, Erick is unleashing the most powerful magnetic field he has ever created beneath him ….as well as around him.
At this point the Torch goes supernova! Why? For no reason apart from creating nice fireworks.
Immediately below him, encircled by the field (say at a radius of 20 feet as well ….has to be tight) stand Jean Grey and IceMan facing each other.
IceMan opens his mind to Jean Grey, and she untaps his raw potential ….think of it as the most potent form of biofeedback training imaginable ….a ‘quasi-peptalk’ by one of the most powerful telepaths around.
Bobby goes insane and immediately drops the temperature within the magnetic field to absolute zero, in other words zero Kelvin. Obviously Jean Grey is dead now.
What just happened within the magnetic sphere?
What happened is that the characteristics necessary for the Meissner-Ochsenfeld effect were just created, and hence one of the requirements of a superconductor just fell into place.
At this point (say 15 seconds after Jean Grey triggered the ‘IceMan event’) Superman starts to fly around Magneto (who, remember, is levitating 20 feet above the ground and exerting the most powerful magnetic field in his life).
Superman starts to travel at a speed that is a sliver away from lightspeed in a perfect circle around the magnetic field. At such speeds he’d probably need 2 or 3 circles around Magneto’s field for what I plan to take effect.
What just happened outside of the magnetic sphere?
The most powerful electromagnet in the world was created, and due to the M-O effect beneath Magneto’s field this effect is even further enhanced.
Meaning of this?
Well, huge electrical surges are created. The most powerful accelerator on earth (at CERN in Geneva Switzerland) has been able to produce 100 billion electron volts of energy (due to collusions inside, but this were extremely small and instantaneous). 100 billion electron volts is equal to a temperature of a 1,000 trillion degrees.
This was the temperature of the universe when it was 10-12 seconds old.
My version will create far more temperature than this, and thus the heat produced will be greater than that produced at the CERN accelerator (plus it will last for longer, and not be due to the collusions of sub-atomic particles).
If the heat is intense enough, it will be at the level that the universe was at 10-10 seconds after the universe was created.
At that point, and that temperature, the four forces that exist are now three (the electromagnetic force has joined with the weak force, and then there is the strong force and gravity).
Two things might occur:
Option 1:
Magneto will have progressed far beyond the control of mere magnetism into wielding all 4 forces ….or in this case all 3. He will be a walking singularity.
Anyone facing him is toast.
You are looking at someone at the level of classic Beyonder now.
Option 2 (my favorite):
At such temperatures things are so hot that the strong force can barely hold together a proton and a neutron. In other words hydrogen (the strong force could also be able to bring a proton and 2 neutrons to form the nucleus of ‘heavy’ hydrogen).
Anyways, that will be the only element existing all around, and with the intense temperatures solar ignition will occur.
Guess who will be left at the heart of this ‘new’ sun ……Superman.
Guess what happens when Superman is in the midst of such a sun?
Conclusion:
My entire team (apart from 2 people in option one – Magneto and Superman, or one person in option 2 – Superman) is annihilated.
The entire earth is gone.
The moon is gone.
Every single person is gone.
My opposing team is gone (if it remained on earth for the last 30 seconds or so), or if Hal took them beyond our solar system, they cannot return.
If they return they will face either Magneto (in his current form it might as well be the Beyonder), or they will face Superman at the heart of his own sun.
They come ....they die.
They stay away ....the lose.
KMC Community Forums
Apr 11th, 2006 01:46 AM
they signed a contract saying they have to do anything we say, (of course it was stated in the small print) 
Please don't close the fight of the century! 
