No Prep, team 2 takes it. Robin and Batgirl are the weak links in my view. If team 1 had someone like Green Arrow, then it would be very close. With prep, the Bat Team could win.
batman and batgirl... ether one can take out DD. the only weak link in team one is robin and the week link in team two is DD.. i cant really give a winner becuse wolverine is going to be the last man standing in team two.. and on team one i see batman and batgirl standing.. i dont think wolverine can take batman or batgirl.. but at the same time batman and batgirl cant put wolverine down.
You've been starting a lot of posts today haven't you. Anyway Team 2 wins. Wolverine kills Batman, Daredevil beats Nightwing and Captain America teaches Batgirl and Robin to respect their elders.
Why don't you think Wolverine can take out Batman or Batgirl. They can't do anything to take out Wolverine and all he really needs is one good hit
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I'm not trying to take anything away from Batgirl, I just know a lot more about Caps and DD abilities. If that's true then maybe this fight is closer than I thought.
team 2...hes right wolvie would kill batman, DD takes either Nightwing or Robin, and Cap decapitates either nightwing or robin(depending on whom daredevil fights), and then defeats batgirl through sheer strength and stamina
I'm not so sure Batgirl can take DD. She is a great fighter, but not in the typical sense like Lady Shiva. Her real strength is in her ability to read her opponents moves and then move in ways to counter them. So when you reall think about it she's a female Daredevil. Without her ability she basically was like Robin in terms of fighting. So pairing her up against DD is actually a pretty good matchup. I think DD can take this though because his senses encompass so much more like being able to take in all his surrounding, plus he doesn't give any signals away when fighting so she won't be able to read him, taking away her only real edge. After that DD just steps all over her
You are not trying to take anything away from Cassie, but yet you say that she is the weak link?
When she is,arguably, the best martial artist in DC (if one ignores characters like the Legion's Karate Kid, who was owning PC superboy, or the future Batman One Million with his intergalactic martial arts).
Yet you say she is the weak link.
Look at it this way:
DareDevil was having fits trying to cope with Echo (Maya Lopez), the deaf girl who could copy a move just by watching it once.
She was wiping the floor with DD.
Now, Batgirl (cassie) can copy moves just by looking at them done (she copied a secret ninja move just by watching its exponent try it against her). She can also 'read' what someone is about to do, has honed her skills so much that she was thought to be superhuman (the CIA had tracked her as being 4 times faster than human and 2 times stronger, yet that was all due to her skill), and she has beaten Lady Shiva (thus showing that her martial arts skills are exemplary).
How could DD even match up against Batgirl when Echo (who can be said to be a Marvel analogue to Cassie, in that while Cassie originally couldn't speak Echo couldn't hear)? Cassie has stood up against Deathstroke when Batman had to flee for his life.
Yet she is the weak link?
The only thing Batman has over her is his resources and his mind.
There is actually a running joke about Batgirl's (and for that matter Batman's) 'peak' humanity (because some of the things they do are simply put 'not' peak human ....unless kicking trees in two, dodging a fussilade of bullets point blank, and some of the other strength/speed feats are 'peak human').
Anyways, Batgirl is easily the best fighter in BOTH teams.
Not the weakest link by any measure.
For one it is really difficult to 'big up' Cassie.
The way she is written that would be a hard thing to do. 'Big upping' her in physical combat would be akin to trying to big up the Flash in running (let me just say that the same people who were writing Pre-Crisis Superman must have been moonlighting over at the Batgirl Editor's desk).
BTW I am not putting down Murdock. He ranks very high on my list.
However that doesn't mean I'll say nothing if someone says Cassie is the 'weak link.' If that makes you think I am 'big upping' Cassie that is fine and good, however when it comes to her it is nigh impossible to over-estimate her in physical/martial abilities (unless, of course, people start saying she can fly, exist in a vacuum, and shoot hellfire from her eyes while knitting a baby's shawl made of adamantium thread).
Why 4 on 3? How come the Black Cat wasn't invited? I'm sure that she could more than make up for the deficit... even without her though, Captain America is Overkill statistically for any one of these guys one on one as is Wolverine, Dardevil is extremely underated, he's incredibly agile and can literally see behind his back, aside form Batman he too should be able to defeat either of these opponents Batgirl is more acrobatic than Batman, but in a long drawn out fight, he would defeat her. They really need to do another cross over between Daredevil, and Batman leaving the story and art in the hands of Jim Lee and Frank Miller.
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