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IRTMU-Dragon
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Spiderman 3... Venom... clear some crud up.
Alright, first of all, spiderman 3 wont have venom in it. Because if spiderman 3 does have venom in it, that would mean the fantastic 4 is going to be in spiderman 3... No...
Eddie brock was mentioned in the first movie, one sentenace. "Eddies been on it for weeks"
Thats it.
Jonah's son travels to the moon, and he gets moon gem bits stuck in him, these bits are infected by a rare disease that involves rabies, and space dust. These gems, turn him into a werewolf whenver theres a full moon, he turns into, a villain.
If venom is going to be in spiderman 3, carnage definatley wont be, because cleetus isnt even in jail yet in the series, and if venom isnt born in the third one, he definatly wont spawn carnage, to spawn carnage that would involve juggernaut. Or so in the comics. Spiderman journeys to some foresaken world that Beyonder, a VERY old villain/god who was X'ed by The Jackal a while back, created. On this strange world, the symbiote, one of his strange creatures, latches on to spiderman when his costume gets torn up. He takes it back, and realizes its much better. The symbiote isnt evil, or anything, insane, no, evil motives no. Its a nice creature that helps the wearer with whatever it wants. He takes it to get stuided, and they find out its alive, naturally he wants the thing off, so he goes to the fantasic 4... I dont think theyll be in 3, so neither will the symbiote, get me? They use the sonic gun on the symbiote to drive it off and they store it. It, being smart, breaks out somehow and finds its way back to spiderman.
He drives it off by the bells at some giant church, where inside brock is preying for forgiveness because he wants to kill himself, because spiderman, peter parker, ruined his life by exposing him for the fraud story he had been making at the bugle.
The symbiote, attached to emotions, goes onto brock, where brocks extreme hate for spiderman, and his insane mind, drives the spiderman love, and sanity of the suit right out of it.
And for your guys's information, venom isnt a villain.... Hes just a stupid anti-hero. Meaning... Example... Some guy steals an old ladies purse, he swings in, brutally murders the thief, and returns the ladies purse. She runs off screaming. He just hates spidey cause of what he did, and... everytime he confronts him, beats the bloody hell out of him. But spiderman always manages to ecscape, somehow...
The lizard, goblin, and octopus are supposedly in spiderman 3, or in planning for it. Octopus and gobby are now natural villains and will come around every now and then, theyll be reapearing like the shizit.
Theyre thinking number 3 could be the last movie... so hopefulley theyll put brock in it. Kirsten and sam raimi dont wanna do a fourth... the fools.
Now, we cleared up the stuff on venom being in number 3... brock may be... Definatley not venom, or Carnage.
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Jul 1st, 2004 09:01 PM |
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okok cool. have u rode the Spiderman ride at islands of adventure?
THAT RIDE IS FRIKIN AWSOME, SO IS THE HULK COASTER! 
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Jul 1st, 2004 09:10 PM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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sure have. I rode it TONS of times. Yea, the uhlk coster rules totally your going up and its like
"hold on, ive finally found a way to cure the hulk." and hes like "Crap... error." And it like shoots you out and drops you, it rocks.
Yea, I got to riding spiderman so much, to where I started looking around the sets, Ironman billboards are like all over the freggin ride in the background as your going through.
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Jul 1st, 2004 09:14 PM |
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moonwalker741
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didnt oct die, he had to drown, i meen c'mon, he wuz under scraps of mental and his huge invention, he had to could he?......or maybe he used his arms...hmmm..opinions?
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Jul 1st, 2004 09:57 PM |
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Marcellus
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remeber to use spoiler's from now on
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Jul 1st, 2004 10:08 PM |
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fruits
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ok, just because it does not make sense to you, doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. i read in an article that carnage and venom will be in spiderman 3. and it's reliable too. they don't have to stick to the comic book! they haven't so far. they change a lot fo things to meet there needs. i quote the article: "cletus kassady will make a cameo in spiderman 2 leading up to his bigger role as carnage along with venom in spider man 3." so top that mister!!!
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Jul 1st, 2004 10:09 PM |
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moshtitan
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all i know is what you guys post, so between all the mixed OPINONS of how the series is gonna go i know about jack *beep*
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Jul 1st, 2004 11:19 PM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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Top what? Cleetus wasnt in the second movie. So why would I bealive that article??
And they have followed it somewhat, not to where theyd tottally screw it up and make it so he just appears and it just happens. If they screw it up to the point where carnage spawns the same time venom is created, all in the 3rd movie, than Im never going to see another one again.
By the way oct didnt drown, he was floating in denial, lol, dont you know hes the main villain in all the comics? How would he be around in them if he died in the first couple comics?
If they bullshit me, and put venom in without it going onto spiderman first, or him going to beyonders planet, or him going to see the fantastic four to get it off, and they make cleetus cassidy in the 3rd movie with carnage when he hasnt even been put in jail yet, F YOU MARVEL. If they do that. Which they wont.
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Jul 1st, 2004 11:45 PM |
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moshtitan
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cant believe somone would ever say f you marvel under ANY circumstance. disgusting.
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Jul 1st, 2004 11:53 PM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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Yes, it is. But if marvel lets sony pictures screw up the movie to that degree, then theyre no better than the gum on my shoe. IF they do that, Which I know marvel wouldnt dare.
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Jul 2nd, 2004 12:02 AM |
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fruits
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*sigh* thsi is what i think. unfortunanetly, they are gonna screw this all up somehow. this how i thinnk it's gona go. so we know jameson's son is going into space. i don't think they'll follow the werewolf theme, they'll work the symbiote into that. and it will possess spider man, and he'll use it to beat the new, harry version of the green goblin. somehow, he'll figure out that it hates loud noises, and leave him, then at the very, very end of spiderman 3, it will possess eddie brock. then in 4, he'll go to prison, and kasaady will be there, and eddie breaks out, but a little is left over, and it possesss cletus, then all that happens! huge fith stuff. spiderman and venom team up, eventually kick his ass, and that's the end of that! dude, marvel does this kind of stuff. like in x-men. pyro never lived at the x-mansion. iceman and rogue were never together. stryker didn't have a son named jason. nightcrawler was mystiques son. in the movies they weren't. i can name a ton more if u want me to! marvel just has to develop certain characters, even if they have to change what the comics say! even if peter parker dies and mary-jane becomes spider-girl in spiderman 3, i'll still love marvel!!
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Jul 2nd, 2004 01:03 AM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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Well... They cant screw it up that much... No way...
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Jul 2nd, 2004 01:13 AM |
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wuTa
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i dobut we will see venom in the 3rd one they might show jamesons kid goin into space and have a cameo with brock but thats all i'm expecting to see.....raimi is at least trying to attempt to stay true to the comics....[SPOILER - highlight to read]: obviously harry is gonna be the next villian but even though raimi said that he doubts he will do a 4th one i think he will set it up so lizard will be the villian for the 4th one...conners was only mentioned in the 1st one but he we actually saw him and he had lines in the 2nd one which tells you that there builing on that charactor...i dont think raimi is buildin on him just for the hell of it...and if there is a 4th one they could have jameson return from space in it and build on brocks charactor more
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Jul 2nd, 2004 01:29 AM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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Yea, conner is the lizard right?
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Jul 2nd, 2004 01:31 AM |
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wuTa
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yep
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Jul 2nd, 2004 01:34 AM |
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IRTMU-Dragon
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Tell me again why he wanted to become the lizard? Wasnt it because he wanted to regrow his arm like geckos... or something?
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giant_snoopy
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IRTMU-Dragon sounds a lil too nerdy to me, even though spiderman is my fave comic character. Whats this indepth detail to stay into the story i mean NO. 1 they haven't so obviously they never will, NO.2 they did this cause its the movies not tv series so the stories told in chunks cause kirsten Dunst says "maybe a 3rd movie, but 4th would be ridiculous". And NO. 4 its been told like that to given a fresh taste.
And in my high school days, around the mid-nineties my fave version of spiderman cartoon was on and they never told the real story either with the fantastic four, it was the scientist dude who could change into a lizard was the one who removed the symbiote. Both the movies and cartoon was handled by STAN LEE so its his vision to be creative.
Watch disc 2 of the 4 disc dvd series, he explains reason for creating this basic VERY human-like superhero.
I was listening to the radio about some nerds making a site dedicated to find faults eg. in movies like spiderman2, sheesh its movie you nerd, JUST ENJOY IT. Sorry if its a lil harsh but its tru, even the dj's were laughin

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Jul 13th, 2004 06:22 AM |
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SUPERMANDAMAN
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Well all i know is that i had enough of the green goblin in the first movie so he better not be the only bad guy in the third one.
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Jul 13th, 2004 07:13 AM |
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Alpha Centauri
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"didnt oct die, he had to drown, i meen c'mon, he wuz under scraps of mental and his huge invention, he had to could he?......or maybe he used his arms...hmmm..opinions?"
Way to ruin the movie for me genius. Is common sense really lacking in humans to this degree?
I think it'd be a mistake to put Venom in. Really.
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