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Doomsday Vs The Maestro

we know that maestro is the future version of the Professor(the 2nd most powerful incarnation of hulk,under the savage hulk) Maestro is listed as twice as strong as hulk's ever been.

Doomsday's strength is beyond measure. Who would win


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Even though I love Doomsday like a play cousin I'm saying Maestro cuz he's smart, and he probably realize that the best thing to do is beat him reallly bad and put him in a stasis pod or something for if he kills Doomsday, he's gonna come back stronger


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Yeah but Doomsday could come back more times than Gene Simmons and still not hold a candle to Maestro.

Doomsday would be more evenly matched against normal Hulk.

My view on it is this, put Superman VS Doomsday. Superman wins. Put Superman against Hulk. Superman loses. Put either against The Maestro and it's curtains.

Doomsday is the shit, don't get me wrong. Insanely powerful. But well, Hulk is Hulk. Maestro is twice that.

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Yeah but Doomsday could come back more times than Gene Simmons and still not hold a candle to Maestro.


Well, the idea with Doomsday isn't just that he comes back more powerful. The idea is that he comes back beyond the point of being defeated by whatever killed him in the first place. From what I've read (which is admitedly out of date) he comes back being able to sense the weakness of the opponent that killed him as well, meaning that a reincarnated Doomsday would be a formitable foe for whoever killed him.

However, Doomsday is pretty dumb. And I'm pretty sure Superman has defeated him again recently (although I don't know how), so someone whose smart enough could figure out how to vaporize him and win for good. In other words, I would put money on a smartypants killing doomsday then a hero who only has stregnth.

What are Hulks weaknesses? I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly that Doomsdays only real weakness is his lack of intelligence.

On another note, I'd like to see a one-off comic where Doomsday gets super intelligence (his own, not like in the braniac thing) and destroy the DC universe.

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If a hero beats him using intelligence wouldn't he become more intelligent?


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I guess if someone beat him using a intelligence brain blast then he would come back immune to psionics, yes.

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Yeah but Doomsday could come back more times than Gene Simmons and still not hold a candle to Maestro.

Doomsday would be more evenly matched against normal Hulk.

My view on it is this, put Superman VS Doomsday. Superman wins. Put Superman against Hulk. Superman loses. Put either against The Maestro and it's curtains.

Doomsday is the shit, don't get me wrong. Insanely powerful. But well, Hulk is Hulk. Maestro is twice that.

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Superman would tear up hulk he has beatin him before superman flys at near light speed thats about 180000 miles a second he could just fly hulk up into space and be back before hulk could blink and hulk would be stuck in space and eventually he would die when he turns back into banner.

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Supermandaman, try using punctuation.

"Superman would tear up hulk he has beatin him before"

By fan vote. If it was a real fight Hulk would win. Superman can do damage but he could do nothing that would stop Hulk. Hulk has more stamina and strength.

As far as I know these are Doomsday's powers:

Poison of some kind, super strength, bone spikes that come out of his arms, durability and the ability to come back immune to whatever killed him before.

How Maestro Hulk could counter those:

Immune to all poisons and diseases, unlimited strength beyond anyone else, healing/regeneration that would render the bone spikes helpless, mega durability, very very high intelligence.

As for going against Doomsday's resurrection thing, the technicality of it is this:

If Doomsday was killed by Hulk pounding his brains in, it doesn't count as him being immune to brute strength, just having his brains smashed in. So Hulk would just keep fighting until he found another way to kill him and another way and another way.

Plus when those ran out The Maestro (as that is who I am referring to) he would think up intelligent ways of killing him or as someone else said, incapacitating him.

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Like i said ur forgeting how strong fast he is all he has to do if fly the Hulk up into outer space and and the hulk wouldnt be able to do anything about it . Superman is on the same level as the hulks strength and he moves at near light speed all the hulk would be is a big hypersonic punching bag.

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Hahaha, I remember on the Justice League when Superman lobotomized DD.


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If Doomsday was killed by Hulk pounding his brains in, it doesn't count as him being immune to brute strength, just having his brains smashed in. So Hulk would just keep fighting until he found another way to kill him and another way and another way.


It was never stated outright, but I think the idea is that when Doomsday is defeated via brute strength, he comes back unable to be defeated by the same level of brute strength. IE: if Superman beats him, he comes back too powerful to be defeated by superman-level strength. I did some reading up on Doomsday, and apparently the last time he came back he was beginning to become more intelligent- not extremely intelligent but he is no longer the mindless beast he was. So I guess if people keep killing him he's gonna continue to get brighter.

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Supermandaman, I have created a thread to deal with your argument.

On topic however:

"IE: if Superman beats him, he comes back too powerful to be defeated by superman-level strength"

Yeah but if Hulk Or Maestro beat him to death and he came back, he would come back stronger only by what he had fought before. So if Hulk/Maestro used say....a major amount of his power, that is the level that Doomsday would come back stronger than. In which case Hulk/Maestro can increase their power levels by increasing their anger. So Doomsday would never be fighting the same strength Hulk no matter how many times he was killed.

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If a hero beats him using intelligence wouldn't he become more intelligent?


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Supermandaman, I have created a thread to deal with your argument.

On topic however:

"IE: if Superman beats him, he comes back too powerful to be defeated by superman-level strength"

Yeah but if Hulk Or Maestro beat him to death and he came back, he would come back stronger only by what he had fought before. So if Hulk/Maestro used say....a major amount of his power, that is the level that Doomsday would come back stronger than. In which case Hulk/Maestro can increase their power levels by increasing their anger. So Doomsday would never be fighting the same strength Hulk no matter how many times he was killed.

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How long does it take for Hulk to get that angry? Will it happen fast enough to counter the fact that Doomsday can now sense Hulks weaknesses?

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Hulk can only get so mad at any given time. his intellegence also dampens his madder/stronger ability. that is why he is usually regarded to as a less powerful incarnation of the hulk, just under the savage hulk. he might start at base levels twice as strong as other hulks, but savage can increase his strength exponentially faster because of his simple mind. hulk in any form wins 1 time, after that he gets the crap beat out of him.

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I think it's so terribly sad that you have such a vendetta against The Hulk.

Note the thread title genius. It's not Doomsday Vs Hulk. It's Doomsday Vs The Maestro.

I was just stating how it would go if it were him.

Any Hulk's strength is well known to be limitless because he has limitless rage and the angrier he gets the stronger he gets. Doomsday could be killed by a 5% pissed of Maestro. So he'd come back stronger than 5% pissed off Maestro. Then Maestro would up that percentage and Doomsday would be unprepared. This could continue on forever, but even so, Maestro would find some way to incapacitate him scientifically.

Swallow your vendetta son. We know who Marvel's Strongest is. He is better than your boy, deal with it. Thanos is better than Surfer but I don't deny that because Surfer is my fav. It's killing the threads you endlessly ruining people for backing Hulk.

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Hold on.

In theory, Hulk's strength is UNLIMITED.

In theory, Doomsday comes back not being able to be defeated by the same means- which is the most ill thought out idea since Magneto did the blood thing.

Why are we limiting Hulk's theoretical capacities but not Doomsday's?


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Does the Hulk have any weaknesses?

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Yes...he can change back to Banner, he's dumb unless a smarter incarnation.


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