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Who is the strongest DC Character Abraxas could beat?

Well, the strongest characters in DC that I know of are:
Michael
Lucifer
Mr. Mxy

Show me some feats of theirs that prove they could beat Abraxas? You need upwards of multiversal destruction so I want to see some proof that these 3 can destroy the multiverse...which is funny 'cause DC hasn't even had one for a pretty long time.

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I take it you don't know much about comics, or at least DC ones.


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What about Ultimate Ultimator? He could beat Abraxas.


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abraxax can beat mr.mxy

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Still waiting for proof that Lucifer/Michael can destroy or create multiverses.


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Still waiting for proof that Lucifer/Michael can destroy or create multiverses.
So... you also think that LT can't beat him either?
LT hasn't destroyed or recreated a multiverse...

That's like saying you need Superman to beat Doomsday...

Quite a bit of shoddy logic...


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Well, the strongest characters in DC that I know of are:
Michael
Lucifer
Mr. Mxy

Show me some feats of theirs that prove they could beat Abraxas? You need upwards of multiversal destruction so I want to see some proof that these 3 can destroy the multiverse...which is funny 'cause DC hasn't even had one for a pretty long time.


I take it you dont' read DC much do you?

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So... you also think that LT can't beat him either?
LT hasn't destroyed or recreated a multiverse...


A. LT can't beat him and wouldn't attempt it. Abraxas is part of the multiverse.
B. Lt has clearly shown powers of many multiverses on multiple occassions, as seen in Mr. M's scans. I want to see some evidence that Lucifer or Michael wield multiversal power.

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That's like saying you need Superman to beat Doomsday...

Quite a bit of shoddy logic...


I want feats.

That's not too hard to ask?

I'm not asking something unreasonalbe like is Silver Surfer faster than lightspeed? That's a commonly known fact that he is. Yet, I've seen it contested numerous times in other threads whether or not Lucifer or Michael are multiversal.

So, I'd like proof that they are.

It's a simple request.


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I take it you dont' read DC much do you?

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I take it you don't know much about comics, or at least DC ones.


I see a pattern in DC fan logic...

I'm making a simple, humble, easy request to you. You like DC? You read DC? That's cool. Now, I'll ask again: can I see a scan that shows Lucifer or Michael possessing multiversal power?

And it's not polite to answer a question with a question.


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Originally posted by Nikkolas
I see a pattern in DC fan logic...

I'm making a simple, humble, easy request to you. You like DC? You read DC? That's cool. Now, I'll ask again: can I see a scan that shows Lucifer or Michael possessing multiversal power?

And it's not polite to answer a question with a question.


I"m not putting a scan up. Go look it up or read it. IF you want to know, Elaine, Michael's daughter, remade the multiverse after she took over yeweh's job. God had already made an infinite sea of multiverSES. This was without lucifer's power I might add. Elaine only had her dad's power. As for myx, mxy erased the DCU multiverse, the kingdome, the DCU animated multiverse, vertigo and everything else. he even beat the spectre while doing it. Read DC. it's fun.

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I"m not putting a scan up. Go look it up or read it. IF you want to know, Elaine, Michael's daughter, remade the multiverse after she took over yeweh's job


Aha.

I thought Elaine recieved Michael's powers of creation?

Which, when Michael died outside of Creation, created a single universe.

Any scans to show it wa s amultiverse?

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God had already made an infinite sea of multiverSES


That's bullshit.

An infinite number of multiverses is an omniverse.

DC has never had one of those.

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As for myx, mxy erased the DCU multiverse, the kingdome, the DCU animated multiverse, vertigo and everything else. he even beat the spectre while doing it. Read DC. it's fun.


Already seen you argue with Mr. M over this. He showed several times that nowhere was it said it was a multiverse which Mr. Mxy destroyed.


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Aha.

I thought Elaine recieved Michael's powers of creation?

Which, when Michael died outside of Creation, created a single universe.

Any scans to show it wa s amultiverse?



That's bullshit.

An infinite number of multiverses is an omniverse.

DC has never had one of those.



Already seen you argue with Mr. M over this. He showed several times that nowhere was it said it was a multiverse which Mr. Mxy destroyed.


U make a good point


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Aha.

I thought Elaine recieved Michael's powers of creation?

Which, when Michael died outside of Creation, created a single universe.

Any scans to show it wa s amultiverse?



That's bullshit.

An infinite number of multiverses is an omniverse.

DC has never had one of those.



Already seen you argue with Mr. M over this. He showed several times that nowhere was it said it was a multiverse which Mr. Mxy destroyed.


LMAo every one knows mr m is a fool for marvel. Any idiot with half a brain can see that mxy erased exactly what I said. Mr. M doesn't like the fact that mxy did do more on panel than his precious marvel characters. As for the vertigo being a multiverse, I have already been proven right that it is indeed a see of infinite multiverses. Lucifer saw an infinitely overlapping creation (multiverse) then he saw a sea of rising and falling multiverses ( Megaverse or Omniverse if you will) except dc has the decentcy not to use omniverse since that is an industry wide term meaning all of comics. Now try again. Your not doing very well at all.

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A. LT can't beat him and wouldn't attempt it. Abraxas is part of the multiverse.
B. Lt has clearly shown powers of many multiverses on multiple occassions, as seen in Mr. M's scans. I want to see some evidence that Lucifer or Michael wield multiversal power.
That's like saying that LT couldn't beat Eternity... but we clearly know he can.

There is one scan where it says he is holding mega verses... whoopidy doo! Yet, he is only holding two people, I really doubt Spectre, or Lucifer can't do this...
He still hasn't shown what you are asking feats from Lucifer...
Everything you say, can be turned around and reflected back on LT...



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I want feats.

That's not too hard to ask?

I'm not asking something unreasonalbe like is Silver Surfer faster than lightspeed? That's a commonly known fact that he is. Yet, I've seen it contested numerous times in other threads whether or not Lucifer or Michael are multiversal.

So, I'd like proof that they are.

It's a simple request.
Hold on, I actually have to go through comic books while you just wait...

Also, like I said, it doesn't take the UN to beat Abraxas... but it does take the multiverse being reset to fix everything that Abraxas has destroyed/wrecked across the multiverse.

The IG could destroy him... LT could destroy him... Spectre could destroy him, and oddly enough, Micheal/Lucifer are both above him.

Also, even if they couldn't destroy Abraxas (based on what you're saying), Abraxas could do nothing to them...
It's quite an intriguing take.


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LMAo every one knows mr m is a fool for marvel


He happens to be far more respected on this board than you.

And since I've searched numerous threads involving both you and him, it's easy to see why.

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Mr. M doesn't like the fact that mxy did do more on panel than his precious marvel characters


I've seen him admit when he's wrong. Something you've certainly never done.

And please remain civil. The universe will not always agree with you. That does not mean the universe is an idiot.

Plenty of people disagree with you at numerous times and agree with Mr. M. They're not all idiots.

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As for the vertigo being a multiverse, I have already been proven right that it is indeed a see of infinite multiverses. Lucifer saw an infinitely overlapping creation (multiverse) then he saw a sea of rising and falling multiverses ( Megaverse or Omniverse if you will)


I've never heard anything or seen anything of that sort.

Can I get the scan or source?

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Now try again. Your not doing very well at all.


Why are you being so defensive?

I'm not TRYING to do anything.

I'm asking a question.

I want to see a scan or source that says Lucifer or Michael have multiversal powers. That's all.

While I realize the rage inside you against Marvel is fiersome and the stimulation from DC's penis touching your prostage gland is great, all I am asking for is a scan. Nothing more.

And tha twas intended as a joke. Don't start attacking, again. I promise I won't. All i'm looking for in this topic is proof that Lucifer or Michael have multiversal power.


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Originally posted by Nikkolas
He happens to be far more respected on this board than you.

And since I've searched numerous threads involving both you and him, it's easy to see why.



I've seen him admit when he's wrong. Something you've certainly never done.

And please remain civil. The universe will not always agree with you. That does not mean the universe is an idiot.

Plenty of people disagree with you at numerous times and agree with Mr. M. They're not all idiots.



I've never heard anything or seen anything of that sort.

Can I get the scan or source?



Why are you being so defensive?

I'm not TRYING to do anything.

I'm asking a question.

I want to see a scan or source that says Lucifer or Michael have multiversal powers. That's all.

While I realize the rage inside you against Marvel is fiersome and the stimulation from DC's penis touching your prostage gland is great, all I am asking for is a scan. Nothing more.

And tha twas intended as a joke. Don't start attacking, again. I promise I won't. All i'm looking for in this topic is proof that Lucifer or Michael have multiversal power.


Come now lil kid. If your going to try to attack me in a manner mr master does, at least be a "respected" poster. Most of the forum who has been around for the last few weeks knows that I really do know my stuff most of the time. All that old garbage of people respecting master over me was just bullshit becuz I was saying stuff people either didn't like, or didn't know enough about so they just said I didn't have a clue. Elaine, who had mikes power, recreated yeweh's creation in her image. A megaverse/or omniverse if you use marvel's stolen definition. Lucifer is powerful becuz of his will. The LT could tell lucifer to Die or go away, and lucifer would defy him.

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That's like saying that LT couldn't beat Eternity... but we clearly know he can


LT's powers are given to him by TOAA.

Why the hell would THe One Above All give his servant the power to destroy something necessary to the universe/multiverse?

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There is one scan where it says he is holding mega verses... whoopidy doo! Yet, he is only holding two people, I really doubt Spectre, or Lucifer can't do this...
He still hasn't shown what you are asking feats from Lucifer...
Everything you say, can be turned around and reflected back on LT...


The Brothers he held were megaverses.

He also exists in all multiverses, as shown in another scan.

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Also, like I said, it doesn't take the UN to beat Abraxas... but it does take the multiverse being reset to fix everything that Abraxas has destroyed/wrecked across the multiverse.


The UN destroys the multiverse and makes it so Abraxas never escaped.

Thus, it was the only way to undo him...by undoing that he had ever happened.

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The IG could destroy him...


I never said it couldn't. I'm looking into that currently.

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LT could destroy him...


LT can't do anything unless he's allowed to.

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Spectre could destroy him,


The Spectre is quite weak.

Didn't the Anti-Monitor defeat/give him a run for his money?

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and oddly enough, Micheal/Lucifer are both above him.


Don't care. Not what I'm asking.

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Also, even if they couldn't destroy Abraxas (based on what you're saying), Abraxas could do nothing to them...
It's quite an intriguing take.


Still waiting on scans or sources.


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Come now lil kid


Why does my age matter?

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If your going to try to attack me in a manner mr master does


Mr. M remains quite civil with you.

I've seen you throw down the insults more often than not.

Hell, you were the first one to call anyone an "idiot" in here. Unprovoked, unnecessary defensiveness.

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at least be a "respected" poster.


I don't care about my respectability. Not the topic at hand.

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Elaine, who had mikes power, recreated yeweh's creation in her image. A megaverse/or omniverse if you use marvel's stolen definition


Scan or source?

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Lucifer is powerful becuz of his will. The LT could tell lucifer to Die or go away, and lucifer would defy him.


Lucifer would likely have no power in Marvel. So, if LT wanted him to go, out he goes.


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Why does my age matter?



Mr. M remains quite civil with you.

I've seen you throw down the insults more often than not.

Hell, you were the first one to call anyone an "idiot" in here. Unprovoked, unnecessary defensiveness.



I don't care about my respectability. Not the topic at hand.



Scan or source?



Lucifer would likely have no power in Marvel. So, if LT wanted him to go, out he goes.


In these threads, if someone fights, we are assuming it's on a neutral ground. And lucifer would still have his power in marvel. are you saying that if a green lantern went to marvel, they wouldn't be able to use thier oan energy?

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In these threads, if someone fights, we are assuming it's on a neutral ground.


What you proposed was not a fight, though.
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Lucifer is powerful becuz of his will. The LT could tell lucifer to Die or go away, and lucifer would defy him.


What I thought you meant was a hypothetical situation where Lucifer was in Marvel (hence "go away") and LT confronted him.

Apologies if I was incorrect.

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And lucifer would still have his power in marvel. are you saying that if a green lantern went to marvel, they wouldn't be able to use thier oan energy?


I'm not expert on GLs but doesn't all their power come from that Battery on Qa? Would such power transfer over completely to a completely different multiverse?

Just asking.


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